We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
Overkill or guarded? Simple storage question Options
 
Säure
#1 Posted : 5/13/2016 12:40:40 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 57
Joined: 26-Dec-2015
Last visit: 21-Nov-2017
I have always been very concerned about storing properly LSD, as I had some degradation problems on the past due to bad storage techniques. I used to store blotter for periods not superior to 6 months, but now I need to store it for 1-2 years, and if possible, manage to have 0 degradation.

I store blotter covering it with film paper, one or two layers, then put one layer of aluminium foil, make sure it fits perfectly the blotter's size, and then vacuum-seal it. This will prevent air, light and moist from degrading LSD, but then we have temperature... At this time of the year, temperature starts to rise, and I am not sure if putting this blotter on a box on a wardrobe is enough, and I have thought to put it in the freezer at -18ºC. What do you think about it?

Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Säure is the main character of a story that somebody has invented, and everything he says is part of that story, which does not refer to any real-life event, experience or activity. Any thing that may seem real is purely a coincidence.
 

Explore our global analysis service for precise testing of your extracts and other substances.
 
Chan
#2 Posted : 5/13/2016 12:55:30 PM

Another Leaf on the Vine


Posts: 554
Joined: 29-Jul-2013
Last visit: 26-Aug-2023
I think the freezer will definitely help, it's what I use for such stuff

BUT

Allow any sealed packages to return to room temperature before opening, to avoid condensation, which will accelerate deterioration. A desiccant sachet in with the blotter probably wouldn't do any harm, either.

I'm not going to pay you an income for this advice, Säure, but you're most welcome to my input Big grin
β€œI sometimes marvel at how far I’ve come - blissful, even, in the knowledge that I am slowly becoming a well-evolved human being - only to have the illusion shattered by an episode of bad behaviour that contradicts the new and reinforces the old. At these junctures of self-reflection, I ask the question: β€œare all my years of hard work unraveling before my eyes, or am I just having an episode?” For the sake of personal growth and the pursuit of equanimity, I choose the latter and accept that, on this journey of evolution, I may not encounter just one bad day, but a group of many.”
― B.G. Bowers

ΰ₯
 
Säure
#3 Posted : 5/14/2016 11:22:09 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 57
Joined: 26-Dec-2015
Last visit: 21-Nov-2017
Thanks Chan! Do you mean putting the dessicant with the blotter, and then vacuum-seal it, or simply putting the vacuum-sealed blotter in a ziplock bag with dessicant?

PS Thanks for the input Wink
Säure is the main character of a story that somebody has invented, and everything he says is part of that story, which does not refer to any real-life event, experience or activity. Any thing that may seem real is purely a coincidence.
 
Chan
#4 Posted : 5/14/2016 11:41:01 AM

Another Leaf on the Vine


Posts: 554
Joined: 29-Jul-2013
Last visit: 26-Aug-2023
The blotter and the desiccant should share the same air/sachet, but without directly touching.

My stuff has stayed good 4 yrs+ like this...
β€œI sometimes marvel at how far I’ve come - blissful, even, in the knowledge that I am slowly becoming a well-evolved human being - only to have the illusion shattered by an episode of bad behaviour that contradicts the new and reinforces the old. At these junctures of self-reflection, I ask the question: β€œare all my years of hard work unraveling before my eyes, or am I just having an episode?” For the sake of personal growth and the pursuit of equanimity, I choose the latter and accept that, on this journey of evolution, I may not encounter just one bad day, but a group of many.”
― B.G. Bowers

ΰ₯
 
LysergicBliss
#5 Posted : 5/15/2016 10:00:58 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 49
Joined: 23-Nov-2012
Last visit: 05-Nov-2016
I store mine in the fridge (around 4 degrees Celsius) and it has lasted 3+ years without noticeable degradation. As Chan mentioned, allow the container to come to room temp before opening the sealed container.

My method of storage is to wrap my blotter tightly in aluminum foil, then put in small plastic ziplock baggie w/ Drierite brand desiccant and air evacuated. These bags go in a small plastic container flushed with N2 gas and containing desiccant. The small plastic container goes into a larger tupperware also flushed with N2 gas and containing desiccant, stored in the fridge. This provides several layers of protection from oxygen, moisture, and temperature fluctuations. Probably overkill.

I've also stored it for years successfully without storing it on an inert has such as N2.

Drierite is a nice desiccant because it changes color when it has absorbed its full capacity of moisture, so you know if moisture is getting to your sample or not.

I've read several claims of aluminum foil catalyzing degradation, but from my own experience I have not seen this to be true.

Just curious, how were you previously storing your blotter when you were having degradation problems?
 
Swarupa
#6 Posted : 5/15/2016 3:00:50 PM
DMT-Nexus member

Senior Member

Posts: 1178
Joined: 12-Oct-2010
Last visit: 08-Jan-2022
I've also wondered where the line between preservation and overkill is. I've heard of people simply storing blotter between the pages of a book, with negligible potency loss after a few years. Dr. Nichols has also mentioned that room temperature is fine for many years, i tend to think that oxygen and light are more of a concern than a few degrees of temperature fluctuation.

Still, i prefer to vacuum seal blotter in separate batches and keep it in the freezer just in case, i don't use foil as the freezer's already dark and I've heard that aluminium foil may degrade the LSD. I read one account where the tabs changed colour from white to brown when stored in foil, although I'm not sure it was the foil. I've had a couple tabs change from white to grey and fairly sure it was due to oxygen or moisture. If i was looking for an extra layer of protection I'd go with wax paper.

I've had some 150mcg tabs vac sealed in the freezer for a year now, originally one was tested at 149mcg and recently had another tested at 140mcg, so seems to have lost a little potency over a year. I also had a freshly laid tab tested at 140mcg, so maybe there was no potency loss and it's due to slight variance in the test results and/or laying of the blotter.

I think overall LSD is more stable than many of us think it is. Smile
 
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.014 seconds.