http://www.telegraph.co....ment-life-begins-when-s/

I'm curious, given the insight of this community... What's your take on this?

I also read once that the pineal gland forms at day 49 in the womb and that, coincidently, that's also when budhist belive the soul enters the body?

True?

-CTC

My 2c.

What is a flash of light? It's a sudden sensory overload. A flash of light to the eyes is the same as a loud noise to ears is the same as a pungent smell to the nose etc. When they say life begins with a flash of light, I think it's just a sensory overload. When we're nothing, ANYTHING is a big deal. The moment sentience kicks in, is a big deal.

John Locke calls an unborn child a tabula rasa, or a blank slate. It is upon this slate that the human being becomes who they are. That flash of light is probably acquiring that blank slate in the first place.

Don't listen to me, I'm an idiot.

The pineal gland piece was a bit of unconfirmed conjecture set in motion by doctor Rick strassman, now, doctor strassman did make it very clear in his books what was fact and what was conjecture or speculation, however many people seemed to have missed his intentions, and began to accept his conjecture as fact.

Now, dimethltryptamine was found in the pineal body of the rat:



Here are some thing's that we do know:

The biosynthetic pathway for DMT starts from tryptophan, which is decarboxylated (by amino acid decarboxylase) to give tryptamine, the tryptamine is then methylated by S-Adenosyl methionine, which becomes S-Adenosyl-L-homocysteine as it donates the methyl group, which gives N-methyl-tryptamine (NMT), which is again methylated by SAM (giving SAH), and yielding N,N-Dimethyltryptamine...

There's a number of places this could occur...

Serotonin' s pathway involves tryptophan, which is 5-hydroxylated giving 5-hydroxy-tryptophan, which is then decarboxylated giving 5-hydroxy-tryptamine (serotonin)

Now, The pineal gland takes 5-hydroxy-tryptamine (serotonin) and converts it to N-acetyl-5-methoxy-tryptamine (melatonin) which is then cyclized to 6-methoxy-tetra hydro-betacarboline (pinoline)...now, due to all this tryptamine chemistry in the pineal body it seemed a logical place to start, no?

(They have found that tryptophan that is not 5-hydroxylated, is decarboxylated, giving tryptamine, this tryptamine is the source of DMT.


So, where is our indole amine methyl transferase (INMT), s-andonsyl-methionine, found in the human body?



So, not much help there, huh?



So we know for a fact DMT is produced in the human body, it can be found in any human urine or blood sample, yet, it still has not been confirmed exactly where this endogenous DMT is comming from, we are not sure where it's produced....

(All the information above is "as far as I know", if I have made an error, please help me correct it, not only do I want to provide accurate information, I want to be corrected when I make errors, this way all my information stays currant and accurate. )

-eg

That article is a trip.

Apparently there are "zinc sparks" which illuminate an egg at the moment of fertilization...

Though I'm not sure what the implications of this discovery are...

They said some eggs are brighter than others indicating a healthier human, and that this cam be used for in vitro fertilization...

But as for the phenomena itself, while interesting, it doesn't have any overt meaning in and of itself...

Life start a n a flash of light...so what does that imply?

As for the 49 day pineal body development and relation to Buddhists claims of the time it takes for the soul to form, this was a connection made by Dr. Rick strassman, and I have not looked into it near enough to give an opinion...

My first post was mostly in response to the notion that "DMT is produced by the pineal gland" which has never been confirmed, we know DMT is naturally produced in the body, but we don't know where.

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commonly repeated but unconfirmed DMT conjecture / speculation
·DMT is involved in the chemistry of birth / death
·DMT is involved with the chemistry of dreaming
·DMT is produced by the pineal gland



-eg