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I am now a lifer on the anabolic steroid front, so injections are second nature. On the daily. so I don't need a lecture. I have IM'ed ketamine as well and loved that. Anyway. I have HCL and fumaric acid and vinegar. Prob Just going to do vinegar. I was going to make a .5 % vinegar solution, mix freebase, and inject. 100mg/ml fine? "Culture is NOT your friend" - TMK
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Let me get this straight - you plan to mix DMT freebase with an excess of store-bought acetic acid (which isn't even CLOSE to medical grade), and shoot that stuff into your muscles? I'm seconding dreamer: no, not fine. Not at all. Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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An excess that should salt the DMT that is safe to inject intramuscular. A .5% vinegar solution is safe. I inject it everyday as a carrier solution for igf-1. Distilled vinegar is not medical grade but it is safe to inject. I'm really just asking about how the ratio of DMT. I'll figure it out for myself I guess. "Culture is NOT your friend" - TMK
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un-known-ome wrote:I'll figure it out for myself I guess. Good plan. "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -A.Huxley
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a1pha wrote:un-known-ome wrote:I'll figure it out for myself I guess. Good plan. Wow thanks for contributing to this thread. "Culture is NOT your friend" - TMK
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Dreamoar
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I was going back and forth with myself on the right way to address this thread from a harm reduction standpoint. Would it be in the interest of harm reduction to explain how to achieve a level of purity that would make the material safe for injection and to explain safe injection practices? Would it be best to pull the thread entirely and sweep the discussion under the rug? Would it be best to give the easy answer you want and wish you godspeed? The obvious answer is that the risks outweigh the benefits and the logical thing to do is to use a less risky ROA. Anyway, as you requested, this community has thus far spared you the lecture. So in in lieu of that, I'll just leave you with a nice snarky answer of read the FAQin FAQ. Quote:Can DMT be IVed?It can, but we do not recommend it mainly for two reasons: 1- The only official research done with DMT by Rick Strassmann used FDA-approved very pure DMT fumarate. The quality of home extraction products might be questionable, one may have solvent traces and other impurities that could be uncomfortable, painful or downright dangerous to inject. 2- The onset of the effects are so quick that one might not be able to take out the needle in time and accidentally ripping their vein out while in hyperspace, or putting it down too near and rolling around/puncturing oneself If one still decides to do it, then please: Use food-safe/USP grade chemicals to extract, take care in making many purifying steps (several recrystallizations/washes) and making sure it has no solvent or other chemical traces in the final product (redissolving the recrystallized product in USP grade acetone or ethanol and re-evaporating, scrapping and letting it dry completely before converting to fumarates in a sterile solution, etc.). Check the first link below for tips on how to prepare for injection and safety proceedures Also, for the first try, take at most 0.2mg/kg, preferably less. And VERY importantly, do NOT do it by yourself, have a sitter that is experienced with needles inject for you and be there to make sure you are physically safe. Links Entheogen Review article on safe injection proceedure iv dmt IV DMT IV DMT? Injecting DMT FASA safe for injection? https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/FAQ#Can_DMT_be_IVed.3FEdit: Yes I am aware that you were asking re: IM and this addresses IV, but the answer is still completely relevant.
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No it's not. I injected myself 3 times today IM with reused needles, without aspiration, with non pharmaceutical or medical grade drugs, without incident and have been doing so for almost half a year. Harm reduction? I scoff at it. I don't even use alcohol prep pads or wear gloves. Sanitary practices are irrelevant. I'm not bragging. Here's your challenge: tell me one thing that can actually go wrong. Because there isn't any. Lol. onset should be 5?minutes or so. Super duper. And no I'm not worried about impurities. Impurities from what? Because there's no lye in my freebase, and there's no naphtha in it, soooooo yeah. I would rather, from a harm reduction pov, inject IM than any other route of administration. That is how safe it is. I know a fuck ton about IM injections in theory, but experience outweighs all of that. IM injections are so safe and risk of infection is remarkably low. Most people in truth or just bitches and afraid of needles. You literally take a needle, shove it in your shoulder, and that's it. Holy crap it's easy. "Culture is NOT your friend" - TMK
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un-known-ome wrote:No it's not. I injected myself 3 times today IM with reused needles, without aspiration, with non pharmaceutical or medical grade drugs, without incident and have been doing so for almost half a year. Harm reduction? I scoff at it. I don't even use alcohol prep pads or wear gloves. Sanitary practices are irrelevant. I'm not bragging. Here's your challenge: tell me one thing that can actually go wrong. Because there isn't any. Lol. onset should be 5?minutes or so. Super duper. And no I'm not worried about impurities. Impurities from what? Because there's no lye in my freebase, and there's no naphtha in it, soooooo yeah.
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....Why the heck are you injecting yourself 3 times a day with anabolic steroids?
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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Dreamoar
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un-known-ome wrote:Here's your challenge: tell me one thing that can actually go wrong. Because there isn't any. Lol. This is reposted from here by our resident MD: corpus callosum wrote:Heres a list of a FEW of the potential hazards of using a needle:
For IM:
Skin infections ranging from a superficial abcess to cellulitis
Muscle abcess
Rhabdomyolysis
Renal failiure
Nephrotic syndrome
Compartment syndrome-requiring major surgery to sort out plus all the hazards associated with this ie idiosyncratic reactions to anesthetics, post operative multi-organ failiure,septicemia,deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, cerebrovascular accident with resulting paralysis/speech problems/incontinence and last but by no means least, death.
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I hear you've been nominated for a Darwin Award. Creator help me live in a way that will make my ancestors proud.
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Got Naloxone?
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Where the heck is Uncle Knucles when we need him? "But even if nothing lasts and everything is lost, there is still the intrinsic value of the moment. The present moment, ultimately, is more than enough, a gift of grace and unfathomable value, which our friend and lover death paints in stark relief."-Rick Doblin, Ph.D. MAPS President, MAPS Bulletin Vol. XX, No. 1, pg. 2Hyperspace LOVES YOU
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dreamer042 wrote:un-known-ome wrote:Here's your challenge: tell me one thing that can actually go wrong. Because there isn't any. Lol. This is reposted from here by our resident MD: corpus callosum wrote:Heres a list of a FEW of the potential hazards of using a needle:
For IM:
Skin infections ranging from a superficial abcess to cellulitis
Muscle abcess
Rhabdomyolysis
Renal failiure
Nephrotic syndrome
Compartment syndrome-requiring major surgery to sort out plus all the hazards associated with this ie idiosyncratic reactions to anesthetics, post operative multi-organ failiure,septicemia,deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, cerebrovascular accident with resulting paralysis/speech problems/incontinence and last but by no means least, death. Haha do you know how difficult it is for any of those things to happen? Do you really. I have experience. You have warnings. I think I win here. "Culture is NOT your friend" - TMK
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universecannon wrote:....Why the heck are you injecting yourself 3 times a day with anabolic steroids? Stable serum levels for short-acting esters. Administration twice a day and also post workout. "Culture is NOT your friend" - TMK
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un-known-ome wrote:. I think I win here.
Not bragging though right? Inconsistency is in my nature. The simple PHYLLODE tekI'm just waiting for these bloody plants to grow
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Do you even DMT Lift bro? Creator help me live in a way that will make my ancestors proud.
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un-known-ome wrote:universecannon wrote:....Why the heck are you injecting yourself 3 times a day with anabolic steroids? Stable serum levels for short-acting esters. Administration twice a day and also post workout. Side effects include altered mood, irritability, increased aggression, etc, etc... Well that explains a lot.
<Ringworm>hehehe, it's all fun and games till someone loses an "I"
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Got Naloxone?
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"But even if nothing lasts and everything is lost, there is still the intrinsic value of the moment. The present moment, ultimately, is more than enough, a gift of grace and unfathomable value, which our friend and lover death paints in stark relief."-Rick Doblin, Ph.D. MAPS President, MAPS Bulletin Vol. XX, No. 1, pg. 2Hyperspace LOVES YOU
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