Hello

I'm pretty sure I went undiagnosed with Bipolar disorder for at least 8 years now, which would explain many of my irrational moods and actions, also confirmed many times by other people. My symptoms vary, mostly with seasonal changes. During summer I'm hypeactive, sleeping less (this week I got 10 hours of sleep so far), with racing thoughts, chain smoking, anxiety and so on. During winter I'm depressed and suicidal, rarely leaving my room, sleeping all day, breaking all of previously formed relationships.

Now I realize my experimentation with psychedelics might have been a form of subconscious self medication, which helped to some extent, but I had to give up tryptamines for good, probably. I'm still recovering from massive amounts of Psilohuasca I was doing for a year or two. At first it was great, but after some time it made my mania turn into psychosis. Salvia had great effect but is not long lasting in the smoked form, and weed just makes me numb after a week of every day smoking. Pharmaceuticals are out of the equation for me. Would like to find a good herbal remedy for both mania and depression.

I was thinking of Iboga or Rue microdosing, also heard Kratom is good but I get addicted to stuff very very fast, so it may not be the best option.

If you guys can shed some light on the subject, would be great.

Thank you

I would shy away from anything that acts as a 5-HT agonist - in general, it seems like those precipitate psychosis and mania. That means no serotonergic psychedelics (psilocybin, DMT, ibogaine, etc).

You could look into lithium - low dose preparations like lithium orotate are available OTC and online. Some people say it works really well, without the risks of high doses, such as lithium poisoning.

My friends with bipolar say that the best thing for them is keeping a normal schedule. Get up at the same time each day, go to bed at the same time, just keep everything consistent. There seems to be some kind of relationship between cycling and circadian rhythms, so stabilizing your natural cycles might help your mood.

Why are pharmaceuticals off the market? Bipolar is generally considered to be one of the most intractable mental illnesses, there aren't a lot of home remedies.

Self-dxing something like bipolar disorder is very hard. I'd seek a professional opinion before you engage in any kind of self-medication.

Blessings
~ND

Hey Nathanial.Dread, thank you for great advice.

Regular exercise and sleep patterns are a great way to reduce symptoms, but only to some extent for me. I did improve a lot of my lifestyle, but I'm still far from baseline! Last few weeks I'm overconfident, actually a few months ago I wouldn't even be making this thread because of social anxiety! Even though there is no "real" contact. And now I feel like hijacking a plane or something. People react better to this "version", but I don't feel like myself in this state. It's like my "true self" is abducted by some other consciousness. I just want it to stop.

I don't want pharmaceuticals. Can't really give a logical reason, and I actually agree they are probably the best solution. But I just don't trust them. And I trust the plants with my life. I probably wouldn't be alive without the lessons they taught me. All the lifestyle changes came as a result of it. Might sound like newage-ish mumbo jumbo, but I do think they are the answer for me. I just want to use them more effectively then before.

i lost 2 lab rats over the yrs from bipolar.

they make it thru training OK,
but when they hit the lab floor they go south pretty fast.

seriously , id fall back on self medication,
and would consult several med professionals.

psyches have a way of really fueling up bi polars,
for good or bad depending.
show caution.

I need opinions on the topic of herbal remedies for the Bipolar disorder, bro. The topic says it, and in 2 posts I wrote pharmaceuticals are not an option I will consider. So why would you ignore my request and give me advice I said I'm not interested in - 3 times?

If anyone has personal or anecdotal experience of using herbal remedies for treating bipolar disorder, would be great.

um , ...........
cuz its pry wise not to just dose up on psychedelics or herbal remedies wholesale?
( especially when bipolar)

asking us for med advice, may not be your first best choice.

and, its "sis", not bro..............

sorry, sis. I see where you're coming from, but would very much prefer the herbal remedies.
never said it had to be psychedelic, even said psychedelics didn't help. Don't know what you mean by wholesale.

wrong forum, yeah, probably

take care now

I understand your aversion to pharmaceuticals - I've been there myself. There's a large body of evidence suggesting that many psychiatric drugs do more damage than good in the long term. Anyhow, my close friend who is bipolar finally got his life back through huge changes in diet, exercise, and pursuing his dream of becoming an actor. He's been symptom free for a couple years now. He also quit smoking and drinking, as well as masturbating for whatever reason. Different strokes for different folks I guess

As for herbal remedies, I'm not sure of anything for bipolar, but that's what's worked for my friend. Hopefully you find something that works for you!

I would say lithium is your best bet. You can get it under the supervision of a doctor (which means you're getting care), but it is not a pharmaceutical, really. When you take lithium, you're getting a pure element (Atomic Number 3), forged in the heart of the star that preceded the sun. There's no sketchy synthesis, no fabricated results, also no patents.

It's not a plant, but people have been using lithium as a remedy for hundreds of years.

It's also the best bet with bipolar really. All the anti-epileptic drugs and fancy new things really aren't as good. They're just marketable.

Again, regardless of the choice you make, please please PLEASE seek a second opinion from a qualified psychiatrist. None of us here are doctors (at least, not until Corpus shows up), and even if we were, we don't know you well enough to make a conclusion.

Blessings
~ND

Caapi, no más.

i only play a doctor on TV.

as much as we wanna be doctors, we cant on the forums.

if there is a total breakdown of culture and civilization,
then, were doctors.
except for travsha, he would be a shaman..................

Whilst the symptoms described by the OP may be seen in bipolar disorder, they can be seen in other conditions too. I believe its unwise to self-diagnose and would respectfully suggest being diagnosed by a professional, and once the diagnosis (whatever it may be) is reached, one would be better placed to consider the treatment options.

^there you have it........the dr, has spoken.
and ,as a bonus for acting now,
4 out of 5 non doctors agree also.................

I just won't comment on all the self-righteousness you guys show here. It's not helpful, but actually degrading when someone says "I don't want any *professional* help, and would choose another route"; yet the best answer you can come up with is "but you are mentally disordered, you don't know what's good for you, go see a doctor!" or "you are imagining it, it's not true". I understand if you can not see it because you have never been there, but respecting peoples boundaries comes with being a decent human being. Maybe you guys would get more out of a psychotherapy than me, think about it. I'm serious.

Many thanks to DmnStr8, unfortunately I can not send PM's to members other than moderators because I'm a "new member", even though I'm here since 2012. Much love for you bro. Thanks for the genuine concern and advice. Also to others who tried to be helpful and not plain dicks. I'm done with this elitist forum anyways.

thanx, we like to be the best.
and ,that includes offering best advice to consult a med professional.
no extra charge.

operators are standing by.

your right, ive never been there.
they thought i was a bi polar as a kid,
then realized im actually merely a dysocial.

You are so desperate to provoke a reaction that I must give you props for being persistent

Btw "elitist" is not the same as "elite". Elite = superiority. Elitist = arrogance.

PEace

not really.
i ghost other more exciting threads for that.

seriously.
what do you want us to say.
we really cant practice medicine here.

now, ive been called elitist for everything.
lol.

you're a bit obvious for a troll. just sayin. but you can still improve

Unfortunately, this is the Internet where medical advice cannot extend beyond "seek professional help". The DMT-Nexus cannot assume liability for bad medical advice. It can however help with extractions, provide tips and tricks, etc.

Best of luck in your battle echoes.

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Hello echoes

While psychedelics do open up your eyes, you must do that constantly-on your own-hen you are sober if you are affected by a mental illness. Before using psychedelics, make sure you are comfortable, ready, and at the point in your life where you should actually do this. )

I'm suffering from HPPD, it is pretty severe sometimes, but in my personal case Cannabis was enough to help me get on my feet. I'm planning to journey on DMT a few times, now that I got my life together. But this is the point I want you to focus on.
I might have used ganja, but that didn't block the shots I fired against myself in life. All the lies came back to me, I could only maintain proper consciousness (throughout the months, sober) when my when my conscience was clear. Chaotic lifestyle -> sustainable lifestyle and calm/steady consciousness -> psychedelics.

So pardon me, because this again is not the dream answer you were looking for. All I'm saying is, a lot of healing can be done if you act properly and are honest to yourself.

Also, all these people here reply for a reason. We don't want to harm you, nor are we against you. But I get what they feel, don't rush things because if its not the right door you open you can get f*** up...

All the best, and remember the feelings are not you this might have been what helped, and confused me the most...