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#1 Posted : 8/7/2009 9:18:43 PM

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SWIM is going for his first extraction. His MHRB came in big strips rather than powdered. He was all geared up to do Noman's tek but after his blender showed no aptitude for powdering... he decided to go with Lazyman.

So after carefully mixing his lye solution he is watching a nearly black bowl sit and stew. SWIM cannot wait to see how this works out.

SWIM was an regular user of LSD (and other things) back in his teens early 20's but has never had any experience with spice.... although he has been aware of it for 15 or so years. He has spent the last few weeks reading just about every extraction report and tek. Now at the tender age of 32 he is eager to see his efforts rewarded.

**Update**

Alright.... twas a bumpy road. The bowl used proved a little unwieldy. There was probably a little bit of loss due to spillage on the first pull. SWIM had practiced poaring the bowl before beginning, but was not prepared for how slow he would have to pour off the naptha. He ended up decanting to another vessel and had a much easier time.

SWIM let it evap and here in super-humdidty...it took all night with a fan over it. There were no fluffy masses but the dish was covered in what appeared to single thin and short cystals. He scraped it up and ended up with about .7 grams of tan waxy crystaly goodness that this morning smells flowery.

He did have a second evap tray that finished last night. He put a small amount in a glass piece insulated by a bit of MJ and vaporized it. The 3rd toke sat him speechless with eyes closed (smiling) for a little over 2 minutes. There were great closed eye visuals and a great body buzz that reminded him of the warm LSD post peak glow.

He was totally impressed but feels his yield was super low. He hopes that the rather small spill did not contain the majority of his spice. Right now he is preparing to do another Naptha pull.

Should spice be stored in the freezer?
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Madcap
#2 Posted : 8/8/2009 9:26:21 PM

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The end result of the first pulls looked like this
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#3 Posted : 8/10/2009 7:36:03 PM

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Looks great!! It didn't sound like you did a freeze precipitation but your spice looks pretty clean. I would keep the spice in the freezer. For long term storage..anything over a month or so you should convert it from freebase to a salt preferably fumarate. The fumarate is good for storage and oral ingestion ie. pharmahuasca etc. but isn't good for smoking. The conversion proceedure back and forth is fairly easy and straight forward. Congratulations!
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#4 Posted : 8/11/2009 12:29:14 AM

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#5 Posted : 8/11/2009 12:59:18 AM

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Madcapv2 wrote:



He was totally impressed but feels his yield was super low. He hopes that the rather small spill did not contain the majority of his spice. Right now he is preparing to do another Naptha pull.



I find that once the solution seems to be exhausted of spice, if I leave it for a week or so to soak further and then do another pull more often than not I'm very pleasantly surprised.

Once after a 2 day soak I only pulled .3 from 100g. Then after a week of further soaking I got another .8
 
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#6 Posted : 8/11/2009 4:12:24 AM

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Another floridian !! Welcome to the land of spice. Smile
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#7 Posted : 8/11/2009 4:20:09 AM

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memo wrote:
anything over a month or so you should convert it from freebase to a salt preferably fumarate.


From what i understand.......even in it's freebase form, spice is fairly stable and will keep it's potency for quite a while at freezer temperature.

True.....for ultimate long term storage, salt will hold up much longer.

Swims friend has about 6 g of spice and has been thinking of converting it but i've heard that dmt freebase can hold it's potency quite well for up to 5 yrs.

A month sounds like a bit of a short while......no?
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#8 Posted : 8/11/2009 4:54:42 AM

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I don't know. I know that I have had problems with stored freebase. It may have been a tolerance issue but once I made a fresh batch the potency seemed to be there again. The spice in question looked very good and had been very potent, but even after recrystallizing using Bestine it wasn't as strong as it was initially. I know there is some kind of weird tolerance issue where a normal breakthrough dose won't be effective. It is disappointing when you have beautiful crystals of dmt that aren't as potent as they should be though.
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#9 Posted : 8/11/2009 8:44:55 AM

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Never extracted myself but have been wanting to try the Lazy Man Tek since it seems the easiest.....

Have any pics of the process and how was the end result ( the actual trip)
 
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#10 Posted : 8/11/2009 3:45:54 PM

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SWIM had intended to take many pictures of the extraction process. He had some problems with pouring the naptha off of the large bowl. Once he hit that hurdle...he went into brainstorm mode for solutions and just got too caught up to snap pics. He will hopefully photograph the next attempt. SWIM lives in a condominium and will be doing smaller batches because naptha stinks and a big bowl or bucket filled with lye and bark is hard to work with.

As for the effects: SWIM has been slowly building up to a good dose and last night he crossed a line. The visuals were much more detailed and interactive. Earlier/ lower doses had been cool over the last few days. Last night's trip was incredible. SWIM needs to buy a better scale so that he can measure his doses better before he goes any further.
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#11 Posted : 8/11/2009 5:49:40 PM

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In swims opinion that the marsofold tek, is just as easy (if not easier) than the lazyman's , and your not dealing with as much solvent (fumes in florida condo's...don't want to piss off the condo commando's).
Plus, swiy is most likely going to spend more time cleaning the spice at the end....that is if he want's really clean spice.

A/B's use less lye and solvent, produce's cleaner product, and are just as easy.Thats swims two cents.

Swim will probably convert his spice into fumerate, because the amount he has will last well over a yr. , but will leave a g or 2 as freebase for near term use.
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#12 Posted : 8/11/2009 9:58:09 PM

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SWIM has been thinking about marsofold's as well. He was pretty sure he was going to do a jungle extraction as well and thought that STB made the most sense. SWIM is going to keep doing naptha pulls on this MHRB until it stops giving... but if toluene is that much stinkier than naptha SWIM doesn't think he can do a jungle extract at home.

SWIM will re-read some A/B teks and make a decision.

Thanks for the input
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