Welcome to the Nexus, blackcatvagabond!

Good to hear you've had some success in extracting. The first time I ever extracted DMT was with "Bartoline Low Oder White Spirit" and although it did efficiently pull the goodies, it took forever to evap and I would get a strange pressure in my lungs after vaporising it. As Jaffster said, use "light naphtha" (i.e. ronsonol or newport).

Good luck and see you around

Thanks Intezam and Jaffster, looks like blackcatvagabond has already switched. I think it is time for me to do the same. Would be nice to have a fast dry phase.

Welcome aboard. Aside from Naphtha, it's worth considering D-Limonene.

You can't freeze precip D-Limo. Though you can salt out to acetate and clean up with iso and Soda Crystals.

Peace

Macre

Sounds to me like you managed to extract plenty of NMT too? I guess it was from an Acacia extract rather than MH?

Nice advice from everyone I'm glad to have started a productive discussion and very happy to be here at the Nexus. The long evap times and undesirable flavour from the Bartoline are definitely not ideal. Think I'll pop to the pound shop and get me some Bull Brand to try it out.

What do you guys use to powder your mhrb? I tried mum's fancy food processor and it started smoking...my extractions thus far have been with pretty crudely chopped material. It feels wasteful, I feel as though I'm gaining a TRUE respect for the plant--it's funny i talk so much shit but DMT made me actually FEEL it. The trick is applying it when you're straight

I've had a busy week...work and stuff. I have a little DMT left which I'm going to offer to a friend when they come to visit. Funny story, last time i was with this person we took some acid, and they did 2 hits, for the first time. it was all good but then something triggered them and they were all kinds of people but not themself. they were screaming all kinds of weird, dark, personal shit, kept stripping naked, attacking us, trying to rape us. i was on 4 tabs, i'd never seen someone have a trip like that, it was heavy. but i'd read "the experiment at la chorrera" and i remembered how terence stayed with dennis and shamanised him while he was lost in the cosmos and guided him out of it in stages, so i took them into a room and did exactly that, and it worked and they were fine. my friend was drowning and i swam them home. anyway this person has had dmt before and all went smoothly so here's to sharing, this will be the first person to have tried my dmt other than me.

I'll attach some photos from my last extraction. you can see my (butchered) mimosa bark and subsequent poor yields. it's in a jug and i'm stirring it with a chopstick. my first purchase of bark was mostly to just to see if i could do it. i put my tek together by altering ones i'd read. but mostly it's that noman thing. i now understand my shit is really ghetto and i need to step it up with some proper gear...but it's a learning process. i was curious as to what would happen if i dropped a bud of weed in one of my evaporating dishes, so i did that. this weird grey colour emanated from the nuggy (chlorophyll? thc?) and now it's still evaporating. did i get weed in my dmt or did i get dmt in my weed? and, a couple more questions:
how long does the lye solution take to extract everything from the wood? upwaysidedown, are you suggesting it might be worthwhile to soak it for a couple days or so and doing another pull, resulting in DMT and also other alkaloids that would enhance effects?

my understanding is that during the naptha phase it should be warm--how warm are we talking here? I've been placing the jug in a deep pyrex with hot water but it doesn't seem to do much to change the temperature. i don't have a electric stove. and how about during the previous stage with the lye solution? what's the ideal temp for sucking all the good shit out of the wood shit?

anyway thanks for all the lovely warm welcomes and advice folks i haven't used a forum like this in about 12 years but i used to be a part of some great communities and...well let's just say it feels very positive and also like i'm moving in the right direction. "find the others"

Freeze thaw wet wood a few times will help it break down in a blender. It can take a few days for the lye to break the wood down if it's big enough pieces, always keep all materials until you're absolutely sure you've extracted all the goodies.
Add some solvent to your base soup and shake let separate and do this periodically for a few days then retrieve the solvent to see if there's anything in it.


Peace and good luck.

It was extracted from Mimosa actually. I am pretty sure it was due to the heavy naphtha not fully evaporating (even though I had it under a fan for many hours). Since switching solvents I haven't experienced it, so I assume there was naphtha "trapped" in the DMT crystals.

blackcatvagabond, that's really great what you did for your friend on acid. Having someone in that state can easily push your own trip into that negative trap, where once the seed is planted it grows and spirals out of control. Well done keeping it together.

I use garden sheers or strong scissors to break the bark down to manageable pieces, then I throw it in a glass blender I got from Argos. I have done many successful extractions without blending the bark, but just cutting it and boiling the chips in acidic water. Standard A/B.

Back to the Naphtha, I've seen "Bull Brand" naphtha in £1 shops and I all ways assumed it was dirty due to its relatively cheap price. If it evaporates clean on a glass surface, it is most likely safe to use. I tried looking up the MSDS online, but couldn't find it.

Keep us posted!

Edit: I just read woody's post regarding Bull brand naphtha, so sounds like it would be ok to use.

hey,
i'm still around. life is a trip. the world is unfolding a bit (in a good way) but it means i have no time to continue doing this stuff. I've been amassing supplies. got my new solvent and pyrex. FINALLY got hold of a pressure cooker, i'm gonna grow some Ecuador and Galindoi. well excited.

anyway i have a question. you folks were very helpful before.

i'm doing an extraction with Ronsonol and one of my soups looks weird. the other bottle looks more like the emulsion i had with the bartoline spirit (i'm letting them settle overnight), but this one is all cloudy. this bottle was with the more finely powdered mhrb material, is this what caused the cloudiness? it honestly kinda looks like frogspawn, with the bubbles floating in there, or mycelium. i'll take another photo in the morning, maybe it'll have settled.

and here i've attached a "deep dream" image i made that i think is very trippy

okay, so no pictures, but an update:
my extractions are going well. I have refined my tek a little and i am very impressed with the Ronsonol. I'll do a writeup soon of my process.
Tasted a little bit of the spice this morning in my spliff, smoked in silence in the sunshine with my eyes shut and I felt some familiar flickerings of sensation so I guess it's dmt.

The murky soup i posted a photo of earlier, well I got one of my comrades to shake it for a day and it's been sitting for a whole day now. The whole solvent layer is brown and cloudy. can't tell if it's a really fine emulsion or something mixed in with the naphtha.
is this bottle fucked or can it be saved?

Hello again!

That definitely looks like an emulsion. How much NaOH did you use? I never have a problem with emulsions from all ways adding more base than needed.

A few things to help break it... Add more NaOH (which is what I would do), add salt, and/or use a subwoofer (or some other vibrating source).

The brown layer that has formed could be from suspended bark dust in your naphtha. The best way to clean it is to do a sodium carbonate wash on your dirty solvent and then freeze-precip. I have had more success with that compared to freeze precipitating and then recrystallising afterwards.

Good luck!

Greetings bcv!

DK is right, the emulsion is from fine particulates sticking in your solvent. And he's also suggested some good ways to clear it up. I'd suggest adding very strong brine instead of just solid salt. (35.8 grams of salt in 100mL water.)

Other otc vibration sources include an electric toothbrush or an aquarium air pump, and I see that Durex have been promoting some kind of toy lately as well, although that may have been in Germany.

Of course, best is to avoid shaking your extraction so much and as DK says, using a large excess of lye is also a preventative measure.

Backtracking a little here, heavier naphtha (as in Bartoline white spirit) pulls really well as it can take more heat and gives excellent freeze precipitation results - and BBQ lighting fluid is also a good option here - but the results really should be cleaned up with a mini A/B or a recrystallisation, both of which require a clean, volatile solvent of course.

Whichever way, I'd say not to worry about your extraction as all will be well. Good luck!

wow you guys once again I am stunned by the helpfulness, experience and knowledge the nexus has to offer. that bottles been like that for a couple days now. i was struck down with food poisoning (first time, it sucks) so i haven't had a chance to do anything with it but I scraped another dish last night and my supply is increasing steadily. Once I'm better I'll test it out properly in the Volcano.

I have another question, if anyone knows about shrooms:
is this mycelium, or a contam? it's Ecuador spores on rye grain. the white threads are rising up a lot higher than I expected and there's these little black dots in it (contam or dust?)

i also have some galindoi spores growing in a nutrient mix. how cloudy is it supposed to get before i inject it into my bags?

That is mould. Do not open the bags. Dispose of them safely, preferably a long way away.

Review your work procedures and if you purchased your bags "ready to go" consider informing your supplier. Whichever way, something was not sterilised properly.

This. Grains can be tricky to work with but they don't have to be. If you are doing it yourself, patience is the most important factor. This goes hand in hand with being completely sterile.

Just a suggestion.. I'd be tempted not to agitate the solvent & base mix too vigorously. There's no need really and it may be contributing to the cloudy solvent issues. My friend stirs his solvent in, some people gently roll the bottle end over end, but whichever way mixing the two more gently may help avoid it in future :-)

OK that bag is well disposed of. I have moved onto jars. hopefully i'll have better luck. does this look like mycelium in the other bag?

i added some more lye to that bottle and played it some stoner rock. that dish had a very good yield. the ronsonol works great, evaporates within a day or so, and the crystals are big white fluffy things. beautiful.

i had nothing to do one day, so i thought i'd test my product- loaded .03 into my chillum between some ash and mesh screens, got a friend to watch me and help me light the thing and blasted off!

man!

every other time i smoked it and i made sounds, my friends could hear. as in i was actually making the sounds. this time, in the dream i was singing, mouth open, pretty loud, but my buddy insists i was still and silent the whole time. i feel like i fully left my body. and i managed to pay attention a bit more before returning.

the content of my trips is always kinda the same. weird nonsensical alien shit. no clear images or anything i can really focus on. my friends have spoken of fully formed hallucinations, like clearly defined objects etc. it's a lot murkier than that for me. i feel like im inside this fantastically fractally crystally plasticky velvety prickly gooey yellow red ribboned alien lifeform matrix. and it (they? we?) wants to show me (us) shit my human brain can't comprehend. i can't focus on anything for long enough to get a clear image of it.

Anybody tried 1p-lsd? a friend of mine sent me a little in the post. . at 100ug it feels like the real deal to me. wrote a song, smoked reefer, did some heavy meditation staring at a single point. i'm interested to know what you cats think of the stuff

here's a song

and here's another

well, i smoked again and got my question answered. i just had a little, again in the chillum, and this time the colours were noticeably different. darker with greens and slower moving patterns. i'm satisfied to know that there's more there for me to see and now I'm gonna focus on extracting a decent supply.

my housemate wanted to try it so i loaded him a little bowl. never shared my own DMT before. he had a good experience and wants to try it again. guy always had a hard time with shrooms and acid. said he always felt like he was "waiting for the thing to happen" while feeling uncomfortable and overstimulated. i'm teaching him about mindfulness i think it'll help him get through that.

and i got a call from my old boss, of all people. said he was listening to a podcast and Rick Doblin was a guest, and now in his late 30s he's becoming interested in this psychedelic thing and thought I might have something to say about it. i'm so pleased to have another ally in this.

few questions...

i wonder if one of you UK cats can confirm: are magic truffles legal here? i've heard so many different things. i ordered some online anyway...who knows if they'll turn up. friends have said they've had success.

i have some blue lotus on the way, too. what can i do with that? i thought i could add some DMT to it and make an enhanced leaf. i haven't smoked too many different herbs but i hope this one tastes better than that calea zacatechichi.

anybody have experience with muira puama tinctures? thought it might help a female friend who experiences pain when she's gettin busy.

and, the first picture here-- i took this one dish out the freezer and the crystals looked so weird! big blobs. . what happened? as they dried they started to look more normal. but i hadn't seen that before.

peace folks i hope you're all well. i handed in my notice today. 2 months and i'm movin to portugal where as far as i can tell DMT is basically legal?

edit:



shrug. oh well

It is not.

That's pretty awesome mate. Have you got it in high-res?