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santaonacid
#1 Posted : 3/24/2016 2:20:42 AM

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Looking for a local plant species that has decent DMT content. Going to make a trip to a couple nurseries next week to examine the plants and check for availability. However I'm only looking for legal plants, or ones that grow abundantly in the wilderness. I have, of course, done a lot of prior research but any input is appreciated here as there aren't as many people over here into this stuff and I'd love to be able to contribute to the community in terms of valuable information.

Babul, Shikakai, Irimed, Reed Canary Grass, Desmodium
These are among the few I've shortlisted as relatively easily available. However there isn't much info on these and their alkaloid content and extraction other than Desmodium and Reed Canary.
Any suggestions at all would be appreciated.




Oh and i hope my post is alright? Last time it got removed just because i asked info about a strain of acrb..if i need to edit it just inbox me and kindly don't remove the post thanksSmile
 

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#2 Posted : 3/24/2016 3:18:40 AM
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welcome santaonacid

of the medicines you mentioned, Babul is possible but highly variable, Shikakai unlikely (contains nicotine), Irimed not known..most of these plants are not well known to modern science..Khadira maybe..
similarly canary grass and desmodium..there are very few or no known reports of people extracting these for alkaloids, it is more an area of frontier research for the adventurous..for acacias in india see this thread here
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...osts&t=23472&p=5 , as well as pages p49, 53, 80, 83, 86 of that thread..
of 'native' in india, Acacia caesia is probably the most hopeful/likely of knowns, but not very abundant

it would be safer to stay at this stage with plants known to have been used in this fashion successfully and safely..
A. confusa is naturalized in Tamil Nadu, and has been introduced (maybe a long time ago?)
and some of the Phalaris species which are abundant across the world grow there and have been used, but can vary a lot...see the thread https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=16810

i am always very interested these medicines, and many things, of the land of india..and plan to look further into this in the future
 
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#3 Posted : 3/24/2016 3:36:38 AM

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This thread should be a treasure trove for you.

Happy hunting.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=66037
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santaonacid
#4 Posted : 3/24/2016 4:16:28 AM

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nen888 wrote:
welcome santaonacid

of the medicines you mentioned, Babul is possible but highly variable, Shikakai unlikely (contains nicotine), Irimed not known..most of these plants are not well known to modern science..Khadira maybe..
similarly canary grass and desmodium..there are very few or no known reports of people extracting these for alkaloids, it is more an area of frontier research for the adventurous..for acacias in india see this thread here
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...osts&t=23472&p=5 , as well as pages p49, 53, 80, 83, 86 of that thread..
of 'native' in india, Acacia caesia is probably the most hopeful/likely of knowns, but not very abundant

it would be safer to stay at this stage with plants known to have been used in this fashion successfully and safely..
A. confusa is naturalized in Tamil Nadu, and has been introduced (maybe a long time ago?)
and some of the Phalaris species which are abundant across the world grow there and have been used, but can vary a lot...see the thread https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=16810

i am always very interested these medicines, and many things, of the land of india..and plan to look further into this in the future



Damn that's a long thread! Read a lot of that stuff. Great work on your part I must say.
I've found an place which names the product as Ribbon Grass. And indeed that is what it is called. However it does look a little different to me than in most other pictures of the species. Phalaris Arundinacea is the one I'm talking about btw. Check the pictures I have attached. They do look very much similar but the leaves hint at some minor difference?
And yes my bad i mentioned Shikakai in place of this other plant. I didn't even know Shikakai was rumored to have DMT. Just that it has nicotine, which i do not wsnt at all lol
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#5 Posted : 3/24/2016 4:22:21 AM

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Bodhisativa wrote:
This thread should be a treasure trove for you.

Happy hunting.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=66037


Damn thanks a billion! this saves me a shit load of time looking up the plants and info on them. Absolutely brilliant I'll be trying extractions of a couple of those soon
 
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#6 Posted : 3/24/2016 5:10:31 AM

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Those pictures above are not of any species of Phalaris.
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#7 Posted : 3/24/2016 5:21:25 AM

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I thought likewise but this source is supposed to be legitimate, so that's gotten me confused. It definitely doesn't have stripes so i had ruled it out initially. But I saw a few images on google of ribbon grass that looked like this? I didn't know there were such distinct variations. Nor do i know the name Ribbon grass being used for any other species
 
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#8 Posted : 3/24/2016 10:44:32 AM
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https://www.erowid.org/p...is/phalaris_images.shtml



I've been very interested in potential entheogens from this part of the globe...

Thanks,

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#9 Posted : 3/24/2016 10:46:50 AM
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Phalaris arundinacea

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#10 Posted : 3/24/2016 4:44:24 PM

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My bad. Lesson learnt: Always search information by species name. Lol
http://gardentia.net/2012/12/06/ribbon-grass-4/
Apparently the name ribbon grass is used for other grass species.
 
 
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