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#61 Posted : 12/22/2015 9:57:14 PM

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I think this is an awesome idea and if folks are down I would be happy to get the ball rolling on this one.

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Just seeing this now, I'll have something ready to go in the next day or so.

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anne halonium wrote:
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$200,000 a ceremony!


200k cant even buy a humane condo,
my objection isnt the cash,
its hardly empire building $....were talking cheap apartments.

my objection is
" what makes these guys holy enough to dole out ANYTHING"

id offer a dead concert has more spiritual high ground...........
( and no one complains about the cash they make!!!!!!!)

$200,000 for a ceremony. How many ceremonies do they do a month? Adds up fast. If they do just 3 a week then that is $2,700,000 a month (4.5 weeks with 3 ceremonies a week). Pretty sure you could buy a condo with that. In a year it would add up to $32million+. Making profits off of sick people.

 
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of course they could book them 4 hours apart 24/7/365 in stadiums and become moguls.
i doubt theres that much demand.

the cash thing ,and the holy thing, are 2 different issues.

i dont paint everyone who trips as sick and needs healing.
some are some are arent.

considering that it costs 90k to shake HEP-C , 2 k is like nothing.
but once again, even if these guys PAID 2 k a head to the trippers to show up,
i still dont see where these guys hold the high ground on anything......
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you can say that 2 thousand dollars will buy this or that or is this much less than the other thing. But by the looks of it the people running this operation are a bunch of kids whose peers pay that much in rent over like 4-6 months. They will profit from this, if it is allowed to happen. And they are not the people that you want healing you. They are not saying, "hey we are accomplished healers, we are experienced, etc." their draw is a perceived exclusive right to administer these drugs under some imaginary legal protection. They expect people to come to them not based on their qualification but based on the availability (or lack of availability) of the medicine.

I don't know if these are ill-intentioned people. I think they think they have this locked down because everybody wants a product that these guys feel only they can offer. I know that if this is the introduction of ayahuasca into mainstream US culture I do not like the form that it is taking.
 
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..of course my white half loves to loot and burn.
and my indian half loves to be a unregulated pharmacist.....



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I signed up for his emails out of curiosity and received this the other day:
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Honor and Credence
This is a personal letter from Trinity de Guzman, co-founder of the ONAC – Ayahuasca Healings Native American Church:
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There have been many leaders who have walked before me today, to be able to make what we are doing as an organization possible."


Then he goes on to name drop and ramble on about J Mooney, and then goes into this anecdote without any contextual reference-

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And to give a clearer picture of James’ character: the same government officials who filed all these charges against James and his wife, like Utah ex-attorney general, Mark Shurtleff (who is now under federal indictment), when James was given the opportunity to give supporting evidence to throw these people in jail, James simply refused.

The same people who lied and corrupted our Judicial system in order to put James and his wife at great peril and risk for being thrown in jail for the rest of his lives… he forgave, and wouldn’t give the FBI the information they requested, simply because that goes against everything that James, the Oklevueha Native American Church, and the spiritual values of our Church, is all about. Talk about forgiveness, and standing in your truth.


The name dropping goes on with a short list of accomplishments and accolades for UDV founder Jeffrey Bronfman.:
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If anybody’s name goes down in history for the efforts they have put forth to protect Native American Ceremonies and practices, it would be Jeffrey Bronfman.

A deep honoring and recognition for the path that Jeffrey paved for us, to be able to do what we are now able to in the world. Without him, without his courage, without the stand that he made, without his investment towards our religious freedom as a nation, we would not be able to do what we are doing.


Trinity does not state that they have any connection with or support of UDV or Bronfman, but the inclusion of several paragraphs right under Mooney's accolades implies that AA has their blessing.

He then goes on to talk about the blessings received from " Native American ancestors" and a rambling discourse that is full of new age no-speak and seems tailored to take advantage of white guilt:

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It is only on the blood that was shed by the countless Native Indians, from North & South America, are we able to bring this medicine to you today.

There have been countless massacres, with many sanctioned by the US Government, for the mass extermination and genocide of Native Americans.

To extinguish their culture, their rights, their beliefs, their people, and force them, through threat and death, to follow the footsteps of those who wanted nothing more than control, power and land…

This went on for hundreds of years. More Native American died in the 1800s than ever in recorded history, by poisoned small pox infested blankets, supplied to them by the BIA (Beareau of Indian Affairs), which actually took place ON Indian Reservations. On top of this, they were killed, with bounties placed on their heads by the US army.

And it is only with these elders, these teachers, these people who stood for their beliefs, who would NOT bow down, who would NOT succumb to the threats made unto their people, who continued to hold sacred Native American Ceremonies, that this tradition lives on, and is available to you today.

We bow on our knees, humbly, with the deepest respect, credence, honor, gratitude and tears in our eyes for the blood that was shed, to make what we are doing today possible.

It is only with these above mentioned groups and brave souls, that we are able to bring Ayahuasca to America, publicly at large, and legally, to you right now.


Speaking of legality, on another page trinity goes on at length:

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There are hundreds of pages of legal documentation for you to read and understand, and without having a law background, it’s really easy to get confused with this.


...and therefore it's really easy to mislead people...
(Italics mine)

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But it’s my job to make everything as clear as I can for you. To bridge the world, between the legal verbiage and history, and to what you all care about most: are you safe in experiencing Ayahuasca with us at our Ayahuasca Healings Church in America?


Trinity sounds as if a legal precedent that applies to his operation as well as all participants has been achieved. I cannot figure out how he arrives at this.

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We have 100% legal rights to use the sacred sacraments of Ayahuasca, Peyote, San Pedro – any plant that grows from the earth – inside of America, according to the laws of the land.

Anybody who is a member of our church, and our mother church, the Oklevueha Native American Church, has complete, 100% unquestionable legality to sit with this plant medicine and great teacher spirit of Mother Ayahuasca, and any other plant sacraments that grow from the earth.


And it appears that after all this, his legal footing is derived from a Wikipedia entry on the "law of the land", as that is where his link directs.
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_land)

And after citing various resources, including a quote from jimmy carter, he states:

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So the bottom line is:

There are 2 federally recognized laws (The RFRA and the AIRFA) that protect and allow the Native American Church to exercise their religion, without any interference from the government, and to continue to hold sacred ceremonies with these sacraments & plants that the Native Americans have honored and worshiped as sacred teachers, for thousands of years.


And more on James mooney follows:

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All we need to do is look at the lineage of authority that has been passed down to James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney, the Elder Medicine Man of the Oklevueha Native American Church.

First a note on James:

There is no higher elder in the Native American Church than James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney. All elders are deceased. He is the highest order of authority in the bloodline of the Native Americans that exist in America today.


Wait, what?

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That means there is nobody that has higher authority than he does, to declare who has the legal protection of The Native American Mother Church


Others can speak to the veracity of this better than I. Here for the sake of brevity are the precedents cited for that claim. ( at least there are some!)

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The Rosebud Native American Church legally established their authority with the government to be a federally recognized Native American Church on July 26, 1924.
On March 20, 1998 the authority to start a new branch of the Native American Church was given to James Warren ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney of the Oklevueha Earthwalks Native American Church of Utah Inc by Blessing of Chief Leslie Fool Bull the Head of the Rosebud Native American Church...
On August 19, 2007 the authority and rights of the Oklevueha Earthwalks Native American Church of Utah, Utah Inc by Leslie Fool Bull was verified and sustained by Richard ‘He Who Has The Foundation’ Swallow the following President of the Native American Church, Rosebud Reservation of South Dakota and Oglala Sioux Chief of the Eagle Clan.
Stating, “I verify and sustain James Warren ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney to be the Chief Executive Officer of Oklevueha Native American Church for the remainder of his life.”
...Fortunately, we have personally received James’ blessing to create an Independent Native American Church, and therefor, receive all the legal protection that any Native American Church has the right to..."
"...


After gleefully outlining Mooney's peyote case in Utah:

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The bottom line is: the Supreme Court said that although Peyoteis a controlled substance, all members of the Native American Church are protected by the AIRFA, which means, we may continue to have religious ceremonies with Peyote, or other sacraments (which is defined in our Native American Church, as anything that grows from the earth) without putting ourselves in any harm’s way of criminal accusation or prosecution.

In other words, anybody who is a part of the Native American Church, may continue to sit in these sacred Native American Ceremonies, legally.




Yes, exactly.
peyote, right? Is not the for profit distribution of a DMT containing South American sacrament a separate legal matter? Some may call it splitting hairs, but that's with the legal system is all about.

Asking and answering his own question:

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4. Does the Ayahuasca Healings Church have the same legal protection
as the Oklevueha Native American Church?

Absolutely, 100%.

Through the public Blessing that James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney has given us as the ONAC – Ayahuasca Healings Church, on Dec 10, 2015:

This blessing passes on any legal protection that the Oklevueha Native American Church has to our Ayahuasca Healing Church, and all of our members. That means all of our members have the exact same legal rights and legal protection of the Oklevueha Native American Church.


Again, others can analyze this claim better than I.

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Additionally, as quoted in Bullet C of the Declaration from James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney:
(Which, as James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney states at 42:33 in the Blessing above, we will receive in the mail most likely within a week. We will upload this Declaration as soon as we receive it)

(This appears to be that declaration, or another, it appears a paragraph below the above statement- null)
“As an American Native Indigenous ‘earth’ based ‘healing’ religion that is known as Oklevueha Native American Church (Native American Church and / or NAC) I, James Warren “Flaming Eagle” Mooney, solemnly swear and declare Ayahuasca Healings Church will receive all rights and protections that the spiritual and incorporated trunk of Oklevueha Native American Church receives. Federal ID Number: 841-402-813”

That means, whether you’re a part of the ONAC – Ayahuasca Healings Church, or the Oklevueha Native American Mother Church, the identical legal protection applies to you, so you are completely safe to sit in any of our Native American Ceremonies, at our Ayahuasca Retreats in America.


Mail order?
I thought that went out with the old AMORC ads at the back of fate magazine in the 80's.

It seems to me that the Trinity has a lot of faith in James Mooney. Perhaps he is sincere in his intent, but it seems wholly ignorant to me. He seems to think that his prayer beads are sufficient to ward off the big nasty beast that is the federal and or state and even local government. And that his stance between them and his congregants will keep them safe from harm, and a drug charge is serious harm.

With the type of media blitz that he's been doing, I have few doubts that his ceremonies will be very well attended. And even though his email list gives off the impression of being "safe", I fear that many of the people that are joining him and he will attend our people who themselves are ignorant of any type of drug subculture. The mainstream face of ayahuasca is, from what I've observed, made up of a majority women between the ages of 30 and 60, who may have some cursory experience with drugs but have otherwise led fairly 'normal' lives. I may be entirely off-base with that observation and my concern is not based upon a gender observation so much as a lifestyle one, but I feel that some of these people may put their well-being into the hands of somebody like Trinity all too easily. While a raid upon a ceremony may reveal that face of the entheogen to be the one in the mirror which would be good for us as a whole, it would really suck for the ones who experience it and there's much better ways.

And it's the kind of language like that that follows that if one did not have any knowledge whatsoever of these entities (UDV, et al) that one could take it for granted that they somehow also offer their blessing to this endeavor:

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On February 21, 2006 the United States Supreme Court issued a unanimous decision affirming Religious Liberty in the case of Gonzales vs. O Centro Espirita Beneficente União do Vegetal.

That means, not only did James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney and The Oklevueha Native American Church face the Supreme Court and win, but so did Jeffrey Bronfman and the UDV, both winning their respective court cases unanimously and unquestionably.

This sets a legal precedent, for everything that we are doing, and the bottom line is, there is no question if what we are doing is legal or not.

You and I are unquestionably protected with our Ayahuasca Healings Church, and our Mother Church, The Oklehueva Native American Church.

Nobody has ever been arrested inside of the Oklevueha Native American Church for sharing the sacramental tea of Ayahuasca.


That last statement isnt true at all is it?

Now, on why their legality is questioned and why those claims are not legitimate, which rests entirely with James Mooney's ( ha my auto spell was just fighting me wanting to spell moneys instead...) authority.

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We were initially under the impression that we had full legal protection under the New Haven Native American Church, previously known as the Oklevueha Native American Church of Missouri. For months prior, we had been in communication with the NHNAC Chief and President, Paul ‘Man Found Standing’ Dean. We followed all of his guidance, and received the full declaration and protection of his Independent branch of the Native American Church, which had also received the same blessing from the Oklevueha Native American Mother Church.

However, in the beginning of December 2015, we found out there was a political dispute between Oklevueha NAC and New Haven NAC. As a result, we immediately made contact and were advised by James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney that we would have the strongest possible legal protection if we followed his guidance, to re-organize our public image to come into total compliance with the Oklevueha NAC Code of Ethics and Code of Conduct, and in doing so, earned James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney’s respect and the full blessing from the Oklevueha Native American Mother Church.

This unfolding of events was a huge gift, and eventually led to this beautiful partnership between Oklevueha NAC and our Ayahuasca Healings Church. We now have the full blessing, support, recognition, and legal and energetic backing of James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney, the Oklevueha Native American Mother Church and their Council of Elders.

Any statements made about our legality by ONAC, or James ‘Flaming Eagle’ Mooney, prior to Dec 10, 2015, have been recalled when we received our blessing.

2) The second reason people will still say this isn’t legal is because:

People don’t want this happening. It’s simple.

Our world is just starting to really be ready for this depth and level of Spiritual Awakening for the masses.

But there are so many people, organizations, and energies that are out there that want the world to stay asleep. Stay stuck in th...


Bla bla bla, conspiratorial minded new agey drivel. Goes on to co-opt the legitimate concerns of the cognitive liberty movement in a cheaply contrived "us versus them" context.

So. That's what it is. Caveat emptor. You have $2000 and a lawyer on retainer in WA? Go for it !


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#67 Posted : 12/26/2015 4:12:24 AM

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Wow it seems like he is trying to do a lot to try to convince people that this is actually legal. I wonder if they are aware of the arguments against them from within the community.

If this does go to court, which based on the amount of money and hype involve I expect it will, I really do hope they get a precedent set where ayahuasca can be used legally. But I still don't think they're doing it right.

I once spent 5 weeks living in a zen monastery for about 1/4 of the money that he is asking for four days...
 
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#68 Posted : 12/26/2015 2:12:05 PM

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#69 Posted : 12/27/2015 4:54:09 AM

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Beyond ethical opinions which I'll keep to myself, my main problem is the concentration of wealth. Big bro can leave these things alone until there's a prize to snatch, then they sweep in for the booty and justify the pillaging with demonization of the victims.
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while the secret sits in the middle and knows." Robert Frost

 
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roninsina wrote:
Big bro can leave these things alone until there's a prize to snatch, then they sweep in for the booty .


thats the gubbamint we love so dearly.
let em build up and "$woop the loot."

they are sooooooo safe til they hit a serious tangible 7 figures.
then expect flash bangs and tear gas thru evey window......
anything sooner would be presumptuous.

how un-cynical and un-characteristic of me to think about this in moral terms.
my bad. im slipping in old age. the obvious escaped me.

the winning hand , is dealt by roninsina.
these "eye -0- wasco" guys could be divine,
it doesnt matter.
they are still gonna go down just based on economics.
the irony.
"loph girl incarnate / lab rabbits included"
kids dont try anything annie does at home ,
for for scientific / educational review only.
 
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After having the fortune/misfortune of going to a Santo Diame circle I'd have to say take heed. Ayahuasca/DMT are powerful and in my opinion should not contain ideology. I mean from the perspective of creating a diverse musical accompaniment for hours and hours the stamina involved by the players was incredible (and they were taking the "Diame" as well). But, was not my cup of tea... I want peace and quiet if I want it and certainly do not want "sitters" encouraging me to go back to the circle to witness more upbeat music and violent upheaval. Just my opinion though, I still don't know the best method for myself besides 1, 2, 3 BLAST OFF!
 
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anne halonium wrote:
"eye -0- wasco"

"eye -0- waco" Confused
Hope not




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Looks like there's a new public Facebook group dedicated to refuting Guzman's claims. Pretty straightforward. name, something like "ayahuasca awakenings is not legal" lol.
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one of those groups was on the island last few days.
supposedly drink the kool aid for 100 bux.

dirt cheap , i heard it really sucked them in..........

naturally , i protested to various people.
the sane see it as it is,
the rest shelled out for the jonestown experience.

i think were starting to understand as a group,
that no one ever listens to the pros.
charlatans are way more fun.

i suppose it mirrors the larger trajectory of society.
encourage the biggest jokers, for profit, until it collapses.

although i didnt comment on the "harvard music playlist thread"
its related..........instead of jonestown, they turn it all into a PBS episode.
( wich is ironically probably worse)
were literally one 55 gallon drum and a ladle from agenda based theme parks,
its absurd we allow this kind of hijacking.
we can only envision what happens when north korea catches on to all this.

fact is no one gets psychonauts, like hard core psychonauts.
we need a union, and we need megaphones,
and we need to tell the pretenders to listen to the experienced core.

all that it takes for morons to win, is pandering from the sane.

we hold the high ground absolutely on all this.
we shouldnt entertain this type of stuff anymore.


"loph girl incarnate / lab rabbits included"
kids dont try anything annie does at home ,
for for scientific / educational review only.
 
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I just heard that they have completed a ceremony.
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Media Release - El Jardin de la Paz and ayahuascahealings.com
http://www.eljardindelapaz.com/#!Media-Release-El-Jardin-de-la-Paz-and-ayahuascahealingscom/cay8/56a968a10cf215a9bb9eacdd


Cult Education Institute
http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,131244

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Thanks for the links TH, I'm diligently posting these on the A.H. is NOT legal Facebook group
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It appears Trinity and AH have stopped holding ceremonies until they get their legality issues worked out with the DEA, and thanks for that is going to the "Ayahuasca Healings is NOT legal" Facebook group and public education efforts of some of the members there, including at least one Nexian. Really happy about that.Wink

In keeping with the manipulative and duplicitous rhetoric employed in all their promo material, the AH announcement refers to "detractors" who are against their mission along with the usual new-age (TM) " love-bombing". This is the same type of language their screeners are trained to use to make customers more comfortable as they are separated from their cash., which apparently is the main focus of pre-ingestion interaction between the company and it's customers. Very little if any consideration apparently is given to the obvious and inherent concerns and liabilities.

Of course, as well as stopping ceremony, they are not returning any of the money given to them for ceremonies that are not being held calling them "donations". I don't know how that's legally possible for a registered as an LLC, not a 5013C but hey this is Trinity Guzman, online marketing guru and now just plain old guru. I guess the people who paid have no recourse, it's kinda like trying to call cops after being burned in a drug deal. No,wait, it's EXACTLY like that.

They've pulled in apparently $250,000 so far, but say that's not even enough to cover their expenses. All while Trinity jets around the world from resort to resort, unable to re enter America.

AH statement PDF

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The Ayahuasca Healings Family has a very important public announcement to make.

After careful consideration and in-depth discussions, our church representative counsel and board of members have come to the following unanimous decision. All of us strongly feel this is the best decision we can possibly make at this stage of our journey, to preserve the full effect, health, vitality and success of our mission and vision here together, for now and for the future.

Ayahuasca Healings Native American Church (AHNAC) will be going on a temporary hiatus and will therefore not be conducting ceremonies or holding retreats for a limited period of time. We cannot say for sure how long it will be, but we are confident that it will be brief.

The purpose of this pause in our operations is to illustrate our respect for and to take the necessary time to come into full alignment with the current governmental system and procedures that already exist and are in place. This is so that we can show our full open willingness to comply and be in complete balance with this system, and its petition processing requirements.

Our overall intention is to show that our church is entitled to the full protections granted by the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, or RFRA. As a result, we are presently working with the government to ensure that there is mutual trust and understanding between us. We firmly believe that to effectively propagate our faith and create the changes that are so vital to humanity’s present and future, we must work with the government in balance and harmony, not against it, whilst standing true to our beliefs and religious freedom of expression at the same time.We are sincere in our desire to act within the confines of the law, and we have realized that in order to do so, we must make sure that the government and its agencies are in agreement with our religious practices, which, through the current communication channels already open with them, they appear to be.

Although AHNAC has repeatedly faced criticism from detractors who believe that our interpretation of the law as it currently stands is mistaken, we are 100% confident that what we are doing here is 100% legal.

Moreover, we have absolute faith that what we are doing is perfectly in keeping with our basic and foundational human rights and liberties as provided by, among other sources: the principles set forth in the Declaration of Independence; the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment; the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments; and the Natural and Spiritual Laws as set forth by the Creator.

To be clear, there have not been—nor do we anticipate—any arrests, indictments, or seizures of persons or property. In fact, to our knowledge, we have not even encountered any law enforcement agents. These are discussions only; there has been no threat of force or prosecution.

We fully expect that AHNAC will receive the government’s blessing in the form of an official recognition that AHNAC qualifies for exemption under the RFRA. We also feel confident that we will receive that blessing in a matter of weeks, whereupon we will resume holding the ceremonies and retreats that are so vital to our faith and our work here together.

Until then, we will continue to serve our community and our family, by dedicating our time and energy towards creating a selection of alternative and complimentary transformational services and programs that do not rely on the use of sacred plant medicines as religious sacraments to be effective in our healing, growth and heart- opening journey back to Oneness.

Although we deeply believe that the use of plant medicines is one of the fastest and most effective paths of healing back to wholeness, love, and acceptance with oneself, we advocate that it is certainly not the only way. We are excited to support our community in profound new ways during the interim and in-between time period existing now whilst AHNAC is receiving its authorized exemption.
For those who have previously contributed to AHNAC and are registered for one of our Church’s future Ayahuasca Healing Retreats: we will be in close communication with you to reschedule your retreat date, and to help resolve any inconveniences that may be experienced through receiving this public announcement.

Thank you very much for your kind understanding and unconditional on-going support, as we do everything we can to operate within the rules of the judicialsystem to compliment and bring a healthy and essential balance to the already strong and nourished protective relationship that we have in place with our Oklevueha Native American Mother Church.

We appreciate every step of the journey with you, and with love, we ask for your prayers and positive intentions, particularly during this time, so that we receive our exemption promptly and can continue to provide the service of healing and depth of transformation that we came here to bring, serve and offer to America and the World.
With Infinite Love, Always
Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
*γνῶθι σεαυτόν*
 
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#80 Posted : 3/11/2016 8:17:54 PM

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Scammers dress up like nice ignorant guru's - seems to work well. Cant believe sometimes how easy it is to take peoples money when you make empty promises.... Hopefully this is enough for people to finally see through the charade.
 
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