Hello everybody! This is my first post to these forums, so I'd like to go ahead and give a little basic info on myself.

I tried LSD for the first time about five years ago, 'shrooms' for the first time about three years ago, and DMT for the first time about... two weeks ago, ha. I had never heard of DMT until quite recently (3-4 months ago) and from what I heard I became very interested. Basically all that I heard about the substance was that it was like "Acid times QUADRILLION DUDE!!" Being a fairly (at least in my opinion) experienced user of psychadelics (among other things) I decided to give DMT a try. I quickly realised that the only way that this was going to happen was if I extracted the Amazingness myself. I quickly went to the only place I knew of that could provide such useful information: The World Wide Web! I read countless teks, trip reports, tips on smoking, and a few revolutionary ideas that came from smoking this wonderful Awesomeness. I was immediately drawn to this site. Not only because of the wealth of information that could be found here, but also because of the maturity shown by its members. Thank you all for being the knowledge-containing, sharing, mature individuals that you are.

I'll go ahead and tell you about my first few experiences with the Spice as well. The first few times I thought I had achieved something great! I had many great OEVs and very coloful CEVs. I honestly thought most people that wrote trip reports were exaggerating and that I had reached the top! How ignorant could I be!!! My first 'breakthrough' was incredibly humbling. I felt (I won't even go into what I SAW!) extremely apologetic and thankful at the same time throughout and even after the trip. I was apologetic because of the disrespect I had shown DMT in thinking that it was nothing but a mere fun, recreational drug. I was thankful that it had shown me how wrong and ignorant I had been prior to the breakthrough, and for showing me a bit of the amazing potential it has. I just realised I'm rambling.

Anyway, on to the question at hand. In doing a STB tek with MHRB, do you prefer to stir the naptha into the lye/powder mix, or do you prefer to shake it? My first extraction I was extremely disappointed with the yields that I got by simply rolling it end over end. Maybe the mixing isn't my problem? Here's what I'm doing this time:



This mixture was shaken vigoursly(sp?) twice. Once after the first initial combination and then again an hour later. This mixture was let alone and sat for a little over 16 hours. I then added 80ml of Naptha and stirred. An hour later I went back and shook the naptha/lye/powder mix. I plan on stirring/shaking/otherwise mixing the mixture once more before I pull the naptha out and drop it onto the pyrex dish I use for freeze precipitating.

Is there anything I'm doing wrong? Anything you'd do different?

Thank you kindly for taking your time out and reading/answering this post.

-SouthernSteve


P.S. The use of First Person in this post comes from the fact that this is what was emailed to me by an anonymous internet-user and I was too lazy to change to Third Person.

well steve that sounds just about right..SWIM usually shakes the piss out of his tea...granted emulsions occur if its not basic enough..so if that happens he just adds more lye...one day he will start doing A/B but for now STB/jimjam tek is too much fun..

anyways...there could be many reasons you arent getting good yields...one..the bark sucks..this can happen..but not too often...at least in SWIMs experience...two doesnt sound like you are using any heat..heating the naptha/lye/bark solution will greatly increase your yields...three...evaporate at least half of your naphtha before freez precip..this will concentrate the dmt in your solvent..

there are probably a few other things..but those are about all i can think of...good luck dude

Would SWIY heat the mix for the first naptha pull, or would he wait until the third or fourth pulls before heating the batch? Would temp. should it be?

Also I used about 60% of the naptha that most people use this time. Instead of doing 1ml of naptha per gram of bark, I just used less naptha and let it sit/mix longer to get the most out of the mix. I've found that this naptha is already pretty saturated and the evaporation may not be needed. However, I used to evaporate it but I left my fan at a friend's house this past weekend, ha. Does SWIY think that evaporation is still needed, even with using less solvent?

I just checked the batch from the above mixture that has been in the freezer for eight hours and it's coming along quite nicely. I'll probably let it sit for another 8-16 hours, though. I'll post a picture of the yields if anyone is interested.

Heating to about 50-70 degrees C helps a lot. Heat the water + base + plant material first get it nice and warm while stirring then add organic solvent. If you let it sit for many hours (overnight) there is no need to heat then (solvent will evaporate off and its dangerous as organic solvents are hazardous and flammable). But a good hour or two of heating helps with each pull.

About solubility. There is nothing wrong with using less solvent (that mL per gram of bark isn't really so accurate its more of a simple way to estimate) but if you use less solvent you may have to do more pulls to increase yields. But yes when you have less solvent the solute (alkaloids) will fall out of solution easier. But also if you have more solvent more will dissolve per pull or you will have way more solvent to compounds ratio and adding more simply won't help.

Essentially its all about balancing between the two: maximizing solubility and increasing pull efficiency. So basically its nice to always first try and precipitate your compounds first but if its not working then evaporate some and try again because if you do it this way and not just evaporate you can reuse the solvent more. Its a good way to conserve solvent.

hope that helps be safe and no need to post any photos after all isn't it all just a funny dream?