Agree with blackiethecat .... stupid is as stupid does. Use drugs biawak and use them in great quantity. Please. OK?

Mod Edit: ... And another one bites the dust...

^..obviously well below the intellectual and attitude requirements to be a member of the Nexus.
blackiedacat's henchman.
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the last i heard on this case, the most unresolved (and disturbing) issue was that the woman had multiple broken bones..
something untoward seems to have happened here, even if mainly in how the ceremony was conducted, and i hope it gets resolved..

that this thread attracts a higher than normal rate of trolls is disgusting..it seems dark attracts darkness, in terms of those responses and this case..


the important thing with trying to investigate, understand and report such cases is that people have more information to judge if or where they may go, and whom they may see, and in what context..
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and again, very saddened for the woman's family and friends. (and peace to her)

jeez:/ then a broken jaw and spine what the eff? they kick her to the fasdlfasdhl hospital?

@Annica: There have been many moments that I truly regretted ever meeting this man. As I do not support public naming and shaming I do not feel inclined to post about that in this forum. If you want to know my view on things than you are welcome to contact me directly through my site.

..not to name and shame? my conscience could not abide with that..are you sure this is not fear?

i would like to know more about how this case is progressing..
someone cannot be called guilty unless properly found so, but the leader of an ayahusca retreat must take full responsibility for any misadventure that occurs there..
and as far as these so called 'powerful' 'shamans' go, personally i send a message from my teachers, of a much older tradition, to uphold dignity and Law - a warrior protects the tribe..so they would say - 'watch out', you're being watched..

below is, whatever the cause of death, the man responsible, Miguel Chiriap, so that people can be aware when making decisions on the safety of what retreats to attend..
i say to Miguel - take some responsibility..not just money

Please people, stop supporting the ayahuasca tourism industry. I am guilty of this as well, but never again.

Even the better retreats are a bit sketchy. A lot of research was put into finding the right retreat for my trip and in retrospect, there was no "right" retreat. The people were very nice so I'm not going to call anyone out, but there was very little professionalism.

The extent of real medicine they had on site was a first aid kit and a couple Epipens. Their doctor who was not on site for my trip seemed to put the Shipibos traditional medicine far before any real medicine. They now have a paramedic but also seems to put "vibrational energies" and other garbage above real medical knowledge.

The last ceremony that I participated in, after consuming my ayahuasca, I watched every single one of the facilitators go up and drink. There was not a sober soul in the place. The next day I confronted one of them about this and was flat out lied to that one of them did not drink. It was very dark and I could have been mistaken, but the person named was one that I specifically saw both drink and purge.

It's time for us westerners to take responsibility for our own psychedelic experiences or at the very least, someone you know and trust. It's time for these ayahuasca business ventures to find something else as a source of income. And it's time for the S. American natives to find a way forward without dollars and euros from the ayahuasca tourism industry.

In Peru, it's an unregulated industry run by many for profit, and people can choose wether they want an expensive Gringo run retreat, or some low key retreat run by the locals, or even if they want to drink at all. Up to them!

This obviously isn't as safe as it could be, but since when has anything 'South America' been known to be 'safe' anyhow? Jeez, have you any idea of just how many fatal bus crashes they have in Peru?

People need to do their research beforehand, and make sure they follow the MAOI guidelines as well.

Nobody is telling Tourists to travel down there just to drink. There are so many awesome things to do than just that. In fact i think it's just crazy to miss out on the other Tourist attractions.

What i will say about Ecuador though, is that i was under the impression that it was regulated. However what this means in reality is another thing. Following a careful diet and being free from drugs or medications, etc, is extremely important before such a Natema ritual.

^ good general advice..

however in this particular case, where multiple broken bones/spine was reported, no amount of dieta is going to help

and with the 'shaman' last reported as refusing to comment on advice of lawyer, my sense is something has gone deeply wrong here, in an ethical or supervisory manner..

unfortunately there is no coherent tribal elder system in place here (anymore) to regulate the ethical behaviour of the shamans..

Nexus member Tregar brings, "Easy Ayahuasca". Call it what you will. SUPER approach to DMT tea!!!!!

Out there access can be iffy. Educate and experience close to home, then venture out if you dare.

Deep psyhcotropic travel should be most intimate. Leaving home to be, DE-MATERIALIZED, is radical. The older I get, the less "radical", I become.

The mystic experience should be respected.

Peace