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#21 Posted : 2/25/2016 11:43:38 PM

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Here's a screenshot of the DMT Workshop to show what I mean.

Hey, it's the panaeolus cyanescens grow guy from the youtubes with his unworldly clean kitchen!


Haha, I was meaning to post exactly this before I even read your reply. Glad I'm not the only one who instantly recognized this guy from the photo Very happy

Thanks for the generous replies everyone as well, I will take the time to reply in more detail when I have some more time on my hands Thumbs up
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#22 Posted : 2/26/2016 10:19:31 PM

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A package of printer ink came with a syringe (no needle obviously). Since then the syringe has been very useful for pulls.
 
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#23 Posted : 2/26/2016 10:49:18 PM

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Hi ॐ, I've done so far a few extractions, and have always used Cyb's "Max Ion" tek, as you. I have also used similar equipment as yours, and went through the same problem as well.

What has really worked for me is a 25mL glass pipette with a graduated puller. It allows me to vary the pulling speed, and also it has a valve to pour the drop in the mouth, which is really helpful to get rid of the tinniest droplets of basic soup. I try to pull really slow in order to do it as clean as possible. When half of the original amount of naphtha (50mL) has been pulled, then I pull slower and more carefully, and keep decanting the pulled naphtha until the first tiny ammounts of basic soup start to get into the pipette.

Then, I put some d-H2O on a glass, decant the dirty pull on a clean glass, suck d-H2O in order to clean the inside of the pipette, and pull from the extraction vessel. this way you pull really tiny ammounts of clean solvent, maybe 2-3 mL each time, but this little ammounts are completely clean. When there is left 1 or 2 mm of the naphtha layer, I start the next pull, like there wasn't any remaining in the vessel. I pull ten times usually, and then one extra pull that I keep apart to check if there is any ammount of spice left in the soup.

When I finish pulling, there are 1-2 mm of naphtha layer left. To take this out, I pull it without any care, pulling maybe 22 mL of basic soup and 1-2 mL of naphtha, maybe less. I pour it on the glass I used to clean the pipette, with dirty d-H2O. I keep doing it until no more naphtha is visible on the vessel. Then I put the mouth of the pipette on the bottom of the basic soup glass, and start pulling only basic soup from it. I pour it on the extraction vessel, until there is more or less 5 mm of basic layer in the glass.

Then, I clean the pipette, and pour 10-20 mL of hot naphtha on the glass with the pippete, in order to make it collide with the bottom of the glass, and pass trough all the basic layer. I put then the glass in a 45º position, and try to suck the tiny ammount of basic layer left on the glass, until there is only one drop left. I clean the pipette again, and pull the naphtha from the glass, and pour it on a dish.

This way I believe to retrieve every tiny bit of solvent and make the pulls as clean as possible. It's a bit time-consuming but really rewarding. Hope it works for you!
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#24 Posted : 2/29/2016 9:07:58 PM

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Säure wrote:
Hi ॐ, I've done so far a few extractions, and have always used Cyb's "Max Ion" tek, as you. I have also used similar equipment as yours, and went through the same problem as well.

What has really worked for me is a 25mL glass pipette with a graduated puller. It allows me to vary the pulling speed, and also it has a valve to pour the drop in the mouth, which is really helpful to get rid of the tinniest droplets of basic soup. I try to pull really slow in order to do it as clean as possible.


Thanks for the comment, this was very useful to me Thumbs up
Could you please share a link or a picture of what this "graduated puller" looks like?
I've searched around a bit, but don't exactly know what you mean.
I have been using one of these:


While this worked great for sucking up/holding/releasing the solvent, I found it had little to no control over the suction speed. More control in that department would already be a tremendous improvement, and I guess I should also invest in a smaller pipette such as yours, as I have been using this bulb in combination with a very long burette without a stand and/or clamp, which was far from ideal.
I will also invest in some glass eyedroppers and glass syringes for the finer work at the end, as some others have suggested.
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#25 Posted : 2/29/2016 9:21:49 PM

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I was referring to something like the one displayed in the picture. What you have is essentially the primitive version of this, which does the same, and also allows to control the suction speed. Also, the button allows to reject the last drop, which is really useful. I completely advice you getting one of this.

About the pipette, IME 25 mL is the better size. A smaller one pulls faster, which can damage the filter on the pipette controller if one does not keep attention. A bigger one, is esay to break and IMO unnecessary.

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#26 Posted : 3/1/2016 10:26:55 AM

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Säure wrote:
I was referring to something like the one displayed in the picture. What you have is essentially the primitive version of this, which does the same, and also allows to control the suction speed. Also, the button allows to reject the last drop, which is really useful. I completely advice you getting one of this



Oh wow, I have never seen those before. After a bit of looking around I found that these are called "macro pipette controllers". I am definitely going to get myself one of those, they seem fantastic for precision work. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, and sharing your personal experience Smile
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