Yesterday I decided to break out the GVG for two hits of DMT. I cleared some space in a room to have a nice clean, cubic environment in which to smoke. From start to finish it was mostly an open-eyed experience. I remember closing my eyes, but quickly found that I was having a more interesting interaction with the holograms with my eyes open.

Everything was going just fine, as I had these two abstract-shaped entities gyrating and enfolding in front of me. They would close in distance and then back off. I actually forgot about this next part until I was writing just now, but I remember consciously experimenting with my own facial expressions, noting immediate corresponding and regular (predictable) changes in the entities actions. Having a blank stare would predictably cause them to run their loop one way, whereas when I smiled, they would react another, and smiling while showing teeth or having the mouth open would create different actions. I found the whole matter to be quite intriguing.

At around maybe 3 minutes in or so, I had an immediate interjection of the feeling of alarm, as they seemed rather alarmed as well (odd how I could tell when they have no facial expression, but you'd know if you were there). They started getting very close to me, and I could feel almost like a wall of fuzzy vibrations in my face. These entities would typically have free reign to touch me were it not for the fact that it was preceded by this air of alarm. My first intention was not even to throat sing, but I just let out a single tone from my mouth. The energy in the air pulled my voice downward so it almost instantaneously fell into spontaneous throat singing without my entire voluntary control. This was very reminiscent of when an entity first taught me to throat sing in the first place, as the process was automatic, and it was accomplished through the energy pulling my voice downward in pitch. Only this time, the energy continued to pull my voice lower into another register of throat singing that I wasn't even aware that I had. At this point, I started consciously modulating my activity by changing the shape of my jaw and lips to spurt out series of overtones from my throat singing, as I have learned overtone singing (through the magic of YouTube) during my hiatus with DMT, so this was my first opportunity to combine overtones with throat singing in hyperspace during this situation which warranted a heavy rearranging of frequencies. The throat singing became very rhythmic, and pulsing like a lion roaring to protect their pride or a mate.

When all was said and done, the rearranged geometric abstractions of entities were floating in front of me emitting an air of respect. It was an odd side of the coin to be on. I'm not saying that this is the kind of relationship that I look to continue to have with positive/neutral entities of hyperspace, but I can't say that it didn't feel good to be in that position either. The best word to describe their transformative state is that they become whimsical. Light, translucent, shifting rainbowy colors dominate the air. I never did see the negative entity, but I've travelled enough to know that the sense of alarm I was having was because I was in the presence of one, whether it was in the form of the entities before me, or outside of my visual field. I would tend to think the latter.

I got up from my seat to physically interact with the holograms in a bio-magnetic kind of "dance." I began to sing (voluntarily). I expected my vocal cords to be sore from the throat singing, but they were actually quite relaxed, allowing me to achieve a big sound rather effortlessly. As I changed pitches, I was noticing that I was having a reaction of harmonic resonance with them on certain frequencies. I honed in on where that harmonic was strongest where hyperspace was swelling and almost feeding the same frequency back. It was quite marvelous. I do not think that I was having harmonic resonance with the room I was in, as the effect disappeared as my awareness of hyperspace faded, but it does remain a possibility. I find that to be a very compelling idea with which to experiment in the future though. It would be very curious if it turns out that hyperspace has certain pitches to which it harmonically resonates with more than others that can be produced in the physical world. Perhaps my experiment with Nexians with perfect pitch is asking for too much, but if I can achieve the effect with the same frequency in different locations, then it would also be interesting to see if other Nexians noticed a similar effect when they sing the same frequencies. This would be a much more doable experiment, and using a finely calibrated tuner can give precise results to share.

Global, even though I cannot say that I have near the amount of experience that you do when it comes to this kind of phenomenon, I can say that you've inspired me to conduct experiments regarding singing & body movements on DMT that I find incredibly interesting.

It appears to me as if DMT actually wants us to do this. It seems to egg me on to be more interactive with the experience than just a passive observer like I have been for the last couple years (mainly just sitting in quiet, calm meditation while the trip unfolds).

I have personally found that I can change the entire vibe of the journey with simple hummming, chanting, om-ing, etc.

Two trips ago (about 3 weeks ago), I found myself in a hellish hyperspace place, which is something that I can imminently handle with no problem due to whatever factors (probably decades of meditation & other psychedelics). However, this time, remembering some of your past posts that I enjoyed immensely, I began to chant deep, guttural "Oooommmm"'s & within a split second the entire vibe & scenery of the journey changed into the most heavenly, blissful trip I've had in quite some time.

So, I want to say thank you very much! I'll keep up the experimentation on my end & hope you'll keep up yours, if only so I can read more of your experiences & receive even more inspiration.

Peace.

I asked how to sleep better on DMT and some thing got sort of angry at me when it told me to vibrate my throat and I tried some humming, it just didn't cut it. And I thought I had to do it internally. I just didn't understand it. Luckily, it got more patient with me in future events.

My addition to this thread is sharing my experiences with chanting tones; Entering the shower on 100ug of lsd. Prepared by holotropic breathwork with music and then letting out some visceral chants in the closed vaccinity of a bathroom produced visuals on the white bathroom tiles of my own body reflection in a deep purple colour and also the white core of bones. On 100uG... !!

Not to mention having eaten truffles and at some point having the feeling like I was going to die. Got up and started buzzing my throat. And I hear a frequency buzz in the distance and at some point the buzz in the distance the buzz on my throat interlock to create one sound. And I experience consciousness of significantly higher level. Higher resolution vision and feelings of being another being altogether.

Ok! The energy enters from the head area as a vibratory substance I started from closed eyes. The vibration/buzz became louder until I channeled it and this is where I intuitively opened my eyes and I guess I projected the energy unto the wall. My recall sort of dazes me but I have 'voice in my head' phenomenon. They where very active and there where a lot of doubts as to what to do next. Eventually we both agreed that using the energy to chant was the way to go and I chanted in a particular vibration. I guess I was the one who decided to go higher in the tone and the entities seemed glad. IT felt great.

I got a little fearful because I recalled what you said about meeting a negative entity and I was certainly not up to having to destroy it. I have been combatting negativity in the surroundings of my parents house where I live momentarily. I have been struggling with negativity in every house that I go to. This experience came as a blessing because I find this energy is similar to the way I perceive the negativity in this house. I have the feeling that this was a blessing for the energy and my chants have improved the energy. I sure hope so because it got BADDD. Really bad. I have never been so fearful in my life bad.

And i've had fears.

So thanks Global. I am very excited where this will lead.

Great thread!

Global your descriptions are always delightful to read and resonate with my own experiences a lot. Vocalizations, especially throat singing, is something that started happening to me spontaneously and is accessed much easier on tryptamines. That and rhythmic movements are far too underrated when it comes to us westerners experimenting with DMT and psychedelics generally, like the good Doc pointed out.

Yeah, the technique can make the air pretty lovey-dovey for me. I'm glad I could relay you that helpful bit of information.



Perhaps the concept of the throat chakra might be at play here. The phrase "buzzing my throat" made me think of that, even though, that's pretty much what all vocalizations are.

I have yet to be able to vocalize anything (except for an involuntary moan or groan here and there! ) during a higher dose DMT trance. On lower doses (sub-breakthrough level) I am sometimes able to get a few notes out and/or get up and move around in a pure rhythmic fashion. I am a percussionist by nature and the urge to move with the energy overcomes me sometimes and it is beautiful how the movement can shape and color the trip. It makes me feel like I am more connected in a way...

I think my main issue right now is location. I live in an apartment complex so I easily get paranoid about being too loud. I am moving though...tomorrow actually (ha! I should be packing right now! ) to a house where I will be able to experiment with this much more. This is infinitely interesting!

I do believe that's at play here. I read in Kaballah that this is used for traveling. I certainly hit a resonating frequency or overtone that is quite high and there's a good chance this resonates with the "Throat chakra frequency" that is mentioned on countless new-age webs.

Global, thanks again for making this thread. Met one of those fuzzy energies. Have you any idea what they actually are?

Positive entities tend to be associated with high frequency phenomena (i.e. high pitched sounds, tight/fast buzzing, bright color, etc...) and contact may result in elation and euphoria. I notice that they also tend to be more geometrically pleasing to the eye. Contact with the "fuzzies" or glitches or knotted-up entities that are generally ugly, darker colored, geometrically wonky, cooky or unpleasing results in an emotional vacuum effect. It is unclear what their origins are (even more-so than anything else in hyperspace), and contact should be avoided if for no other reason than avoiding the instantaneous consequence of the emotional vacuum effect. Whether or not they can persist in affecting emotions (if anything else) after the DMT effects have worn off is unclear, but that their fuzzy energy is sticks like glue to the skin, is not very welcome either. Considering this ethereal energy is accessible and perceptible outside of the DMT state in moments of meditation, concentration, intoxication and the like is not incredibly promising.

An analogy would be like avoiding bee stings. Let's say some culture was superstitious of bee stings and thought they brought bad luck. You would want to avoid contact with the bees regardless because there is the immediate consequence of being stung. Similarly the fuzz should be avoided. I tend to default to my throat singing employing audible frequencies to unravel and pacify them, but it has occurred to me that if I got a high powered laser pointer, that its strong visual frequency component could be effective at modulating their being as well. I have felt the effects of physical light interacting with hyperspace as well. My body is energetically drawn to high concentrations of visual light such as that from the sun or a bright lamp/bulb.

I'd like to try to explain my experience. As I feel like sharing and your description of the energies seems far different from mine. this one was rather weak though.

At first there's a vibration and I feel a pushing and shoving motion while there are Chrome,white,brightly colored (yet weaker this time) patterns in a sort of curved thick wall that moves. and there's one on the right and on the left that are different. both are quite scary and intense but definitely euphoric if i let them. they follow where my mind goes really and small amounts of fear had them rejecting me this time. And as I lost touch with them I saw quite clearly a box-like structure of entities that I was leaving. And with my eyes open at the same time I saw my room that is normally High-definition coloured take on a blacker and grim appearance. As I was denied entrance I felt a fuzzy energy associated with the grim look in my room. I did do a few low vibrations very shortly and everything settled. There seems to be a darker more scary world outside the normal elf guides.

The way that I look at it is that the terms scary, overwhelming, and sinister can overlap, but without the sinister element, I will allow the experience to run its natural course no matter how scary or uncomfortable it is. I can easily sense malevolence, and that is something that I have come to refuse to stand for. If you feel threatened, then you should feel appropriate in taking some kind of action. It's not as much of a one-way street as they would like to steer you to believe it is. Sometimes I get a bad feeling out of no where, and there is no visual threat, but when that happens nowadays, I'm going straight into throat singing. It hasn't failed me yet. With the exception of this experience in which there was no visible threat, I have been pretty much left alone since my return from my hiatus. I'd like to think that either they are getting the message that it isn't worth their effort to mess with me, if I've just been plain lucky, or if a lot of use could have been creating more problems than I thought.

Hey global, do you know roughly what the gutteral frequency was?
And did you feel it coming from just behind the top of your sternum?
I've caught glimpses of that tone when I practice, but it's difficult to get the conditions right.
When I raise the amplitude of my strongest tone (centre of the voice box, F/F#) it resonates that chest area where the deep tones are and I can feel almost a reverb of what is possible down there.

I don't know what the frequency was for that particular experience especially since it took place half a year ago, and it's kind of hard for me to hear that frequency too because there are a handful of frequencies in the mix, and I use it more like a growl than a singing kind of thing. I can feel the top of my sternum resonating, but the vibrations are primarily strongest in the voice box. I try to avoid it except when demonstrating for others or using it as needed in hyperspace because I don't want to be doing unnecessary damage to my voice.

When I speak of the harmonic resonance in this writeup though, the resonance was created through normal singing. Again, looking back, it is next to impossible for me to tell you what the tone was. I can tell you that it was likely in my upper comfortable chest voice range (could have probably been G3-C4).

Yeah sorry for beating a dead horse I've just seen you mention it a few times and I find it really intriguing.
Especially the defensive aspect you've outlined.
It would be an interesting experiment to gather a choice group of two or three trusted, capable folk each with their own spice pipes/bongs etc, have them blast off simultaneously while you sit with them and put on a 'performance' of overtone singing. So you become the crude conductor of their trips.
I've noticed that the mouth/jaw/tongue modulation aspect of the practise is getting very close to the formation of word sounds. And if one is careful, one can sing a word song without it being audibly known to others what words are being sung. You hide the syntax within the modulation.

Trust me, you're not beating a dead horse. I think that the throat singing is an amazing tool, and I talk about it so much because of how valuable it is to me. I know that many here are ailed by negative encounters, so being as we are typically helpless in these situations, I enjoy elaborating on the technique I find to be most effective.

It would be an interesting experiment that you propose. "Crude conductor" certainly sounds accurate. The throat singing has an atomic bomb effect to the extent that nothing in hyperspace seems beyond its grasp of influence (I obviously would never try it on positive deity entities), and it doesn't really have too good of a focus, but it is powerful at reconfiguring hypermatter, and energizing the ether. I imagine I wouldn't be very productive for my friends experiences if I was just unconditionally throat singing the whole time. I think I would best be "on call" or do it during the afterglow or something. It's not really like a recreational singing effect for me. I typically use it only explicitly as needed, which provides enough time for experimentation in its own right.

You can definitely sneak in some words, but I don't find words to be necessary. Apart from the gutteral throat singing I typically mention, I have since gotten fairly decent at non-gutteral overtone singing, not being taught by entities, but just figuring it out through online research. If I combine those subtle jaw/lip/tongue configurations that I use in overtone singing with the throat singing (which yes naturally creates overtones anyway), this creates a very rich effect. Using the fluty overtones without the throat chanting creates very fine, whimsical patterns in the ether in hyperspace.

And one, with discipline and simple practice can be applicable within a month with little to no adverse effects.
When available, I'm beginning to replace cigarettes with overtone modulation - every time I feel like a smoke I spend a minute with the breath followed by a minute of singing. The kind that really shakes up the palate/sinus, always makes me feel good like life is gonna be ok without smokes . You know your pushing out the Decibels when you can feel it in your legs afterwards, it's almost a similar feeling to nicotine intoxication -head/body rush etc.




Haha atomic bomb! I like it, very apt.
It gives rise to a though about non-local transmission. Hadrons being excited by pressure waves from the sound source, transmitting the frequency to their counterparts beyond the measurability of spacetime, and they have mass thanks to Peter Higgs' genius so are not impervious to environmental perturbations.
So the intensity of an atomic-sound-bomb, like ripples in a pond in hyperspace, change the observers view of the fishes below. Lensing the scene.


Have you ever tried emulating the shipibo way of singing? I've been playing around with the patterns and forms, albeit haphazardly. The use of repetition with slight variations every iteration is interesting if you can find yourself in flow/trance with a hand rhythm instrument, I use 3 bottle caps nailed to a piece of apricot wood.
I try and stay away from parroting the songs though, I just appropriate the forms and patterns. I wouldn't want to meet a hyperspatial copyright lawyer Lars Ulrich might sue.
Anyway, the fluty overtones you get from the higher frequencies are reminiscent of the nasal/falsetto of the shipibo.

---I had a thought about the entities' reactions to facial expressions and movement.

Perhaps since movement, which may have an intended path or course or shape or "ness" that the mover or expresser is attempting to convey, say joy, or sexiness, or beyond simple worded responses, a given reaction or 'indescribable' feeling-thought-state of consciousness complex depicted by the expression or motion. Perhaps the entities see the individual's "intelligence field" or what shape the intended meanings are taking and why, all of the layers that cause something to present itself a certain way, beyond the feeling-thought and into the state of consciousness which birthed them and why, and additionally morphic resonance as described by Rupert Sheldrake...and by doing so, the entities Grok you, intuitively understand, decode your entire motion, in a way that words can't, by Seeing what you mean . Tone has a similar way about it but, at least to human ears, as far as I'm concerned, still goes up in scales, but there may or may not be infinite notes between two distinguished notes of a chord progression. Does anyone resonate with what I'm saying? The entities decode more context based on how "primary" the "language" you're giving them is, and then respond accordingly...?

It seems to be a context thing. I dunno, just a thought that this thread provoked. Stopped reading my book to pop in as this thought popped out while I was reading and I wanted to see what you guys think.

My apologies if it digresses from the topic of this thread

Give thanx and praise The Most High,

-Spectacles

To be completely honest I don't think that Rupert Sheldrake's ideas can accurately describe the behavior of conscious creatures in this world. His ideas seem based off of his psychedelic and other life experiences, but the experimental evidence just doesn't seem to add up to his claims.