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JDSalinger
#1041 Posted : 1/11/2016 8:00:02 AM

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First lot of pics arent acacias , the second could be a.retinodes or a variation of..

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#1042 Posted : 1/14/2016 7:35:36 AM

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A couple more acacias around Sth. Aus. Cheers Smile

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#1043 Posted : 1/14/2016 8:06:27 AM

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Sorry about the black spots..
“Among other things, you'll find that you're not the first person who was ever confused and frightened and even sickened by human behavior. You're by no means alone on that score, you'll be excited and stimulated to know. Many, many men have been just as troubled morally and spiritually as you are right now. Happily, some of them kept records of their troubles. You'll learn from them—if you want to. Just as someday, if you have something to offer, someone will learn something from you. It's a beautiful reciprocal arrangement. And it isn't education. It's history. It's poetry.” J.D. Salinger.
 
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#1044 Posted : 1/14/2016 9:11:45 AM

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@JD
The one in the bottom two photos is A. Baileyana. If the top tree has some leftover flowers then it could be Mearnsii, but most likely it's a Deanii or Dealbata Smile
Inconsistency is in my nature.
The simple PHYLLODE tek

I'm just waiting for these bloody plants to grow
 
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#1045 Posted : 1/14/2016 9:23:37 AM

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Yes I would say the pinnule are too far apart to be mearnsii
 
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#1046 Posted : 1/14/2016 10:01:20 AM

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Thank you! Smile
“Among other things, you'll find that you're not the first person who was ever confused and frightened and even sickened by human behavior. You're by no means alone on that score, you'll be excited and stimulated to know. Many, many men have been just as troubled morally and spiritually as you are right now. Happily, some of them kept records of their troubles. You'll learn from them—if you want to. Just as someday, if you have something to offer, someone will learn something from you. It's a beautiful reciprocal arrangement. And it isn't education. It's history. It's poetry.” J.D. Salinger.
 
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#1047 Posted : 1/16/2016 2:48:19 PM

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Looks similiar to the A. retinodes I posted before but the flower structure is different, starting very small at the tip and getting bigger. Thanks Smile
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#1048 Posted : 1/19/2016 11:12:23 PM

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A recent trip up to Daylesford/Macedon ranges area led me to stumble across this beauty. My initial estimation was Alpina, but the region was off. Granted it was landscaped in the garden where we were staying.
The phyllodes are no where near orbicular enough to be Alpina.
There was what seemed like golden dust on the phyllodes.
I searched but to no real satisfaction as to what this is.
The phyllodes were around 6-7cm long, 2-3cm wide, appear grey from afar. 3 prominent veins with very little to no anastomoses.
Stipules are obvious and continue into new growth readily.
No flowers or pods unfortunately, got the sense she was only a juvenile.


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#1049 Posted : 1/20/2016 11:38:57 AM

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Beautiful plant! The lack of anastoming rules out the phleb-alpina hybrid, as does the shape of the leaves/phyllodes..
It seems also rules out acacia dallachiana but I am by no means sure.. Possibly acacia magnium ?http://worldwidewattle.com/speciesgallery/images/mangium.jpg Will be interested to read what someone with more knowledge has to say..
 
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#1050 Posted : 1/26/2016 7:55:41 AM

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What about this ? Is A. acuminata or anything useful ?
 
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#1051 Posted : 1/29/2016 12:34:35 PM

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What about this ? Is A. acuminata or anything useful ?

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#1052 Posted : 1/31/2016 10:27:33 PM

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Found this the other day, in South Aus. Help would be appreciated Smile
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#1053 Posted : 2/7/2016 3:05:24 AM

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Hi friends Smile

I planted these around our property a few years ago (NSW Australia) and would like an identification if possible. These girls have begun spreading around the garden so I'll plant them out in their own happy spots before they take over the place too much Smile

Thank you in advance. I will pay forward any help recieved Thumbs up




 
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#1054 Posted : 2/8/2016 7:58:27 AM

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Exogenesis, your tree appears to be A. Floribunda.. would be good to see some close up shots.. phyllodes of this species are perfectly useable for alkaloids. trees can be variable depending on the area they occur..could be a ph/soil thing. needs more research
 
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#1055 Posted : 2/8/2016 8:01:31 AM

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In addition to the above pics and ID request, I believe that we've got ourselves Acacia Fimbriata. A brilliant screening plant and flowers into small puffball type wattles. It's beautiful. Will repost when in flower.

Edit: Thanks Acacian! Nice timing Smile

The first suggestion was indeed Floribunda, if not then Fimbriata. After looking at some pics, the puffball flowering seemed the pic of the bunch.

I am happy to take further pics as reference. Can take anything at all down to about 5x magnification with macro.
 
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#1056 Posted : 2/10/2016 2:35:19 AM

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Exogenesis wrote:
In addition to the above pics and ID request, I believe that we've got ourselves Acacia Fimbriata. A brilliant screening plant and flowers into small puffball type wattles. It's beautiful. Will repost when in flower.

Edit: Thanks Acacian! Nice timing Smile

The first suggestion was indeed Floribunda, if not then Fimbriata. After looking at some pics, the puffball flowering seemed the pic of the bunch.

I am happy to take further pics as reference. Can take anything at all down to about 5x magnification with macro.


It's definitely A.Floribunda. I've had some success with them over the years based on seasonal variation. From memory I think the best time was around September/October. I've had a combination of a nice orange goo to some orange waxy crystals from broken branch bark, phyllodes and twigs. I did have to use a fair bit of starting material to achieve the crystals. Something like 300g material converted to ~0.8-1g of oily/wax/crystal. The main difference I see between this Flori and the one I extracted from is the lack of red tips on the phyllodes.
 
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#1057 Posted : 2/10/2016 3:08:38 AM

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Tryptallmine wrote:

It's definitely A.Floribunda. I've had some success with them over the years based on seasonal variation. From memory I think the best time was around September/October. I've had a combination of a nice orange goo to some orange waxy crystals from broken branch bark, phyllodes and twigs. I did have to use a fair bit of starting material to achieve the crystals. Something like 300g material converted to ~0.8-1g of oily/wax/crystal. The main difference I see between this Flori and the one I extracted from is the lack of red tips on the phyllodes.


Thanks Tryptallmine.

I've got red tips starting on one of them now. A much more mature Acacia than the ones posted as well, moreso in size than age.

I also have some pruned branches from September/October that have been roasting outside. The bark is beginning to crack and fold. Worth consideration?
 
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#1058 Posted : 2/11/2016 6:37:49 AM

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Exogenesis wrote:
Tryptallmine wrote:

It's definitely A.Floribunda. I've had some success with them over the years based on seasonal variation. From memory I think the best time was around September/October. I've had a combination of a nice orange goo to some orange waxy crystals from broken branch bark, phyllodes and twigs. I did have to use a fair bit of starting material to achieve the crystals. Something like 300g material converted to ~0.8-1g of oily/wax/crystal. The main difference I see between this Flori and the one I extracted from is the lack of red tips on the phyllodes.


Thanks Tryptallmine.

I've got red tips starting on one of them now. A much more mature Acacia than the ones posted as well, moreso in size than age.

I also have some pruned branches from September/October that have been roasting outside. The bark is beginning to crack and fold. Worth consideration?


Sounds like a good candidate for an extraction. Off cuts, twigs, phyllodes are perfectly fine for extraction you'll just need more base material. I think ~0.4-0.5% is probably expected with the A.Floribunda - this is purely subjective on personal notes. Best of luck with it.
 
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#1059 Posted : 2/12/2016 9:01:59 AM

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Found this the other day, in South Aus. Help would be appreciated Smile



acacia cyclops Smile
 
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#1060 Posted : 3/1/2016 8:20:56 AM

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Hi,

Can anyone help me to identify this plant ? is it Acacia or Mimosa?

Thank you a lot,
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