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ktz
#1 Posted : 1/2/2016 6:02:49 PM
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hello!
I have some problem with JimJam from limonene/blab tek
after evaporation of vinegar I converted the goo in freebase with a little heat like q21 tek explain.
I tried the dark jam in the vapor genie and in a normal pipe but the effect it's very mild, also with 40-50mg, absolutely no breakthrough, just a nice relaxing like a light medium dose of aya.
Probably I had burn it with fire?
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Hi there!

Freebasing with heat isn't exactly a "proven" method and I have had nothing but hit and miss experiences when using it. Your best bet to ensure that your DMT acetate has been converted to freebase is to do a sodium carbonate wash found at the end of the BLAB tek.

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Also, if you extracted from acacia there may be some NMT in there which is milder in nature than DMT and can make dosing inaccurate. If it was from Mimosa, it should be mostly DMT.

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#3 Posted : 1/2/2016 8:00:12 PM
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so why in q21q21 tek they talk about freebasing with heat?
I can't find IPA or Acetone at 99%, I have only non pharmaceuticals acetone and I think it's not 99%.
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#4 Posted : 1/2/2016 8:19:23 PM

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ktz wrote:
so why in q21q21 tek they talk about freebasing with heat?
I can't find IPA or Acetone at 99%, I have only non pharmaceuticals acetone and I think it's not 99%.


It is really just a theory that Q21 was testing out and apparently had some success with it but others (myself included) have not had the same luck. For a while I thought I was having success with it too but it always seemed like there was some vinegar leftover in the goo no matter how long it sat there.

After converting with Sodium carbonate for the first time and smoking the end result, it made a world of a difference. DMT salts are not really designed for smoking (DMT fumarate is dangerous to smoke, even) so if all your DMT doesn't convert, you'll be smoking DMT acetate, which is a bit unpleasant in my opinion.

If you can find 91% IPA, that will work but isn't the most ideal. 99% can be found online through amazon or many other reputable sites...ebay etc. etc.
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#5 Posted : 1/2/2016 8:41:00 PM

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As just a point of reference, jimjam coming from toluene pulls (heavy deep orange wax) lacks nothing short Thumbs up

 
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#6 Posted : 1/8/2016 2:30:15 PM
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Perfect! now it's work better!Wink
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#7 Posted : 2/3/2016 5:42:26 PM
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After some attempt I realize that I still have some problems.
I'had tried 100-150 mg of goo (after acetate conversion) and the effect doesn't have any visual.
The duration is longer but I think it's very hard to have a breakthrough.
probably it's the plant with low dmt inside?
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#8 Posted : 2/3/2016 5:53:42 PM

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Yeah, if it is goo from Acacia then there is likely a decent amount of NMT and other small amounts of plant matter or oils mixed in. This usually results in mild trips. But don't let it fool you, you may smoke a certain amount one day and get nothing and then smoke the same amount the next day and be blasted into the deepest depths of hyperspace. Acacia goo is funny like that which is why I go for a purer product these days...

Nice disclaimer by the way, it somehow feels...familiar. Laughing
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#9 Posted : 2/3/2016 8:26:47 PM

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The Grateful One wrote:
Yeah, if it is goo from Acacia then there is likely a decent amount of NMT and other small amounts of plant matter or oils mixed in. This usually results in mild trips. But don't let it fool you, you may smoke a certain amount one day and get nothing and then smoke the same amount the next day and be blasted into the deepest depths of hyperspace. Acacia goo is funny like that which is why I go for a purer product these days...

Nice disclaimer by the way, it somehow feels...familiar. Laughing


Still, he definitely should have gotten more effects out of 100+mg. I don't think that OP is smoking it correctly.

OP, what type of smoking method are you using?
 
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#10 Posted : 2/4/2016 9:36:13 AM
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I'm using VG, and with crystals my dose for breakthrough is 20-25mg..
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