Ok so I am still a little shaken up. I got my new scale just now, I think it works? I put what I thought was 10mg in my bowl. Ash on the bottom, mullien on top of the ash. I took Smokeys advice that I read in a topic, and melted the spice before going.

So I just want to get used to the feeling, and just wanted some relaxing to get going you know? 10mg should get that. I took one hit at a time. Waiting to see the effect, making sure not to stack the hits. Not sure why I was doing this, it was just 10mg right? So the bowl was pretty much out, I thought I would push what was left in place so I would not suck it through.

I lit up, and a massive ploom of smoke filled the bong yet again. I decided to take in all the smoke, man was it smooth! I did it just right! Then, BOOM! The same feeling I got, the same feeling I got when I had spice the first time not long ago. Oh Jesus, it got strong fast! I felt my body vanishing. Everything around me was vibrating. And my breathing was vanishing as well as the music, was also vanishing...I was already pretty lax because of the small hits, so I was able to smile.

I seen this pattern, circular. With kinda skull like faces, just chatting there teeth . Not to bright. I am happy I closed my eyes, and I kept them shut, knowing it might freak me out. I just thought to myself, to really relax, everything will be fine.

Maybe this WAS really light? I am not sure if having my body slowly vanish can count as light... I think maybe my new scale is busted? I swear to god it felt strong.. I am not sure what to make of this... At least it was not to scary, it kinda was. The as soon as it hit, it went even faster. Leaving me with this "HOLY SHIT" feeling, and probably a look on my face to match. Moments later I am laughing about how strong one hit of 10mg was, and writing up this topic.

iv had the same issue - but for me its fixed - 10mg blows me away.

Spice is strange like that. It truly does give you what it wants, when it wants. It's very peculiar in that way. I've had some amazing, breakthrough journeys when I was just trying to clean up what was left in the pipe.

10mg should be about a match head size pile of white fluffy pow. Is that about what you had in your scale?

Congrats! I love the ones that take you by surprise!!

Peace
-idt

Yeah I have been taken by surprise too. I remember one day I did not even pack the pipe. It had been sitting on my desk from earlier in the week when I took a journey. I usually finish up anything left in the pipe after a journey but this time I was in a hurry after my journey so I left it. So it came time to journey again and thought I would clean up what was left int he pipe and bam I was thrown into hyperspace. I didn't even take 3 tokes.

Then there are times where I hit my pipe with 4 good hits or so and the most I will get is a sub breakthrough experience. I enjoy them all so it doesn't really bother me.

I have learned that this difference is probably from smoking method instead of dosage. If you get all of the dmt that you put into the pipe you don't need much dmt at all. I have learned that I can easily burn the spice after my first toke, but I am getting better at it.

mullein is a good ally. I theorize it really helps with absorption.

I went out to pick mullein the other day, and the first one I saw had been stepped on and snapped at the stem..so I harvested the whole plant and left..gunna try some changa with it next time.

I know that the roots are very good as a tea or tincture for back injuries becasue of how it gets fluids moving apparently in the body..is this how you think it would help with absorbtion of spice?

nice one. smoke a few hits before you make changa so you know what you're working with and can create a proper mix. it's a very odd taste, but one that I love tremendously.
you know I actually forgot about those properties of mullein you speak of. I used to have a tincture (spring roots) I would work with when things just felt stuffy and stuck in my head/neck. Worked like a charm.
When you smoke spice and mullein you'll know what I mean...you don't need much spice...it just feels like they work together to really blast the medicine into you, thus through you.