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Drowning-man
#1 Posted : 1/8/2016 10:10:21 PM

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Hey guys this is my first post. But swim has done dozens of extracts of DMT and half a dozen other plants with the help of the Nexus. An interesting thought came to mind. I chew Grizzly snuff which has chemicals in it that increase sublingual absorption many fold and agents that cut the gums. I know its horrible for you but any way. Theoretically could you mix harmalas and DMT Fumarate in the snuff for enhanced sublingual absorption? Just a thought.looked up every other way of traveling hyperspace but not this. Is this a new idea? What's you thought? IDE appreciate any opinion, thanks.
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#2 Posted : 1/9/2016 9:08:37 PM

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I think it's the same like sublingual harmala+dmt, but i have no experience in this, but i like the idea :-)
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The general consensus on sublingual DMT is that it is not a very decent Route of administration (ROA).

some one wrote:
4. Other Routes

4.1 Sublingual

Sublingual DMT

Unfortunately extracted DMT does not rank high on effectiveness when administered under the tongue. Taking DMT this way is also quite uncomfortable. DMT freebase can cause burning sensations and is not recommended. DMT acetate can be made by adding a few drops of vinegar to freebase and is easier to take. But there are users who report having taken 100mg with no effect. Best would be to administer DMT Fumarate (converted from freebase using FASA). Some users reports success with 20-30mg DMT Fumarate combined with Harmine /Harmaline HCL salts.

There is an account that you can make a sublingually active DMT mix by mixing 1 gram of Virola calophylla resin with 60 mg of calcium hydroxide. Supposedly it doesn't burn like pure DMT does. The Calcium Hydroxide will burn a bit. It is needed to increase the pH to 9, to absorb everything better. 1 gram producing decent visuals and a light trip. An other suggestion is to use the Virola calophylla resin as a quid in the cheek. Mix about 1000 mg of resin with 60 mg of calcium hydroxide and add a little water. Add just enough to make it sort of like clay. Roll it into a long capsule like shape and put it in your cheek. Slowly suck on it for 10-15 minutes. This traditional method is said to work very well, with no pain at all. 1 gram induces a moderate trip. Several grams a strong one. Advantages: no extraction is needed; no RIMA is needed; it doesn't burn at all; the duration is much longer than smoking DMT. Disadvantages: big doses are hard to hold in the mouth without saliva building up and accidental swallowing; having to take big dosages, it is not a cost effective ROA; not everyone reports to experience sufficient intensity.


from this thread which I would recommend reading, it has a lot of great info:

DMT & Harmalas: Dosages and administration (oral, smoking dmt, sublingual, snorting, etc..)

And as another example, a highly respected member wrote:

Infundibulum wrote:
I very recently tried sublingually 100mg dmt dissolved in 0.5ml of DMSO...this ought to easily get dmt to the bloodstream pretty easily and fast. Well, other than the burning mouth the experience lasted ~15 min, was very weak and in par with 10mg or less smoked spice. Few visuals were present but other than that, meh.

It appears that the sublingual dmt route is generally not that great if not the worst.




So if the chewing tobacco is cutting up your gums, then maybe it would absorb better but it probably isn't worth it in the end, honestly. Just my .02

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#4 Posted : 1/10/2016 5:04:52 AM

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Now that you gave me a example about DMSO id agree. I know what that is. Thanks.
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