Hello lovely people,

I have both heard and read that a tea made from the leaves and/or the flowers of the LSA containing plants have a subtle psychoactive effect. What is this effect? Is it because they, as the seeds, have ergoline alkaloids, or is it something completely different that is active? And if they are indeed active, in what dosages would that be?

Any information would be much appreciated.

No one knows?

As I grow my Morning Glories outside, I will harvest all their leaves when king Winter knocks on the door. I will try to make an extract and test if it has any effects. Would have been kinda cool, wouldn't it?

SWIM was reading a post on the shroomery about something like this (http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2213476) it talked about somebody who made a successful extraction using morning glory foliage, but the details are a little sketchy.

Thank you for that link! Although sketchy, it is the best information I have seen on this matter. I will most likely try it myself, although with some more details.

If it works that would be great! I will have lots of leaves and flowers this fall..

I've read somewhere people soaking fresh flowers in water,or wine. I've never read any reports on it though very interested in the results.

Duke's phytochemical Database cites that only the seeds contain good stuff. The same source also reports strychnine in the rest parts of the HBW plant.

So be careful with extracting other plant parts. If that helps, I'll do my best to nominate you a martyr of the psychedelic community if something happens to you from unknown plant extracts.

*Laughs*
I wont take any such extract in a big dose, that would be crazy. I know of the Strychnine content in HBWR, so my plan is to only use Rivea corymbosa and different Ipomoea variants (which I have plenty of). If you look at the posts from The Hive, reposted at Shroomery, you will see that there has been found some ergoline alkaloids in the foilage, but why that isn't mentioned at Duke's I do not know... Well, only one way to find out!

I have quidded leaf and stem material of MG Heavenly blue.Resulted in a not unpleasant stimulant effect, presumed by me to be a threshhold dose of the actives. Chronology closely matched that of chewing the seeds. Straight seeds tend to produce more of a stimulant effect for me anyhow.

Thank you, that is very interesting! I didn't think enough alkaloids would be present to notice any effects without doing an extract, so that is great news. Roughly how many leaves were used?

Going back a bit but I think it was a largish mouthful well chewed and held for maybe 15/20 minutes.

Thank you mate, I will test this soon.

I have now quidded 10 big leaves (that's really a big mouthful) of Ipomoea purpurea for 25 minutes. I notice some stimulation, and also some visual effects. Colors are stronger, pictures are deeper. The music is also wider. It can however by no means be called a trip, but there is definitely some active alkaloids in the leaves. I will try with 10 more leaves now...

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You would not need to decontaminate them, as all seeds are sold untreated. It is not permitted to sell treated seeds without a warning, so you should be safe. In addition, I believe the rumors about MG seeds contaminated with poisons is nothing but a false myth, the seeds themselves have a somewhat toxic effect (nausea and sedation), especially if you compare it to the more used entheogens like LSD and Psilocybe mushrooms.

I am sorry, but I do not sell any seeds. I can not help you in finding a supplier, but every one of them should be fine when thinking about if the seeds are contaminated. The big question, however, is how fresh the seeds are. Only reasonable fresh seeds should be used, the older they are, the more "toxic" feel they have to them. My suggestion is to buy some seeds and grow the plants yourself, that way, you can have totally fresh seeds.

It is not a myth. And is thoroughly fucked up that they do it. One of the worst nights I've ever had was from using morning glory seeds from pathmark. It's bad enough eating them straight but much worse if they're treated. Make sure to buy untreated seeds.

Are you sure of the accuracy of that source? I don’t believe it is correct. I think this is just a myth started to discourage people from using HBWR seeds.

Many other sources state that lysergic acid derivatives are found throughout the plant, not strychnine.

Tell us if your extraction of morning glory foliage went well.

I dont believe the Foliage has any advantages to the Seeds.
And the plant produces tons of seeds anyway if properly grown which is fairly easy.

Why waste time and effort , chemicals and possibly health on an foliage extraction besides the sake of wisdom .

You already answered why - the wisdom.

I will post here as soon as I have tried an extraction from the foliage, however, that is a few months in the future.