well isnt that the point?
i dont wanna grope people undeclared or neutrals,
it doesnt seem polite.
asexual kinda suggests they arent in " the cage match"

im not against supportive human hugs for warm and fuzzy moments or anything for instance.
im just a wacky bi slut trying to accommodate preferences........

Sex is a part of us, I have recently been able to retain Vital energy and have masturbated/orgasmed without cumming. It is a wonderful thing

Again, I think you're speaking for a lot of people without actually knowing about the full range of people's experiences, needs, and desires surrounding sex.

Sex may be part of *you* but you can only speak for you.

Blessings
~ND

By saying 'Sex is a part of us' I am talking about it being a normal part of life. Hell, plants reproduce, we are all here because of sex, I think you understand what I am getting at now. Not sure how I came across the wrong way brother.

I just don't like how sex is portrayed in culture, that is my opinion but I believe we make it naughty and wrong, when it isn't. I can't stand the degregation of women and I believe porn and a distorted idea of sex contribute to this. Much love

One thing I learned from ayahuasca last weekend, is that if you go to a deep enough level, there is no separation between anything or anyone, and there's no separating sexual energy from anything else. So I agree, we are sexual energy.

This makes me think about plant sexuality, the same chemical transmitters that attract certain insects to flowers are irresistible to our own shnozz's.
Is there an evolutionary advantage to this?

Plants most definitely have sexual energy. idk the answer to your question though

There's an awful lot of puritanical sentiments in this thread and some of the comments border on conspiracy theory levels of absurdity.

It would be more accurate to say that, at root, all biological systems aim towards procreation and propagation of the gene pool. Phrasing it in this manner avoids getting into egoic territory and discussion of personal sexual preference since, in context, this is a moot point.

The energetic systems within the human body are way more complex than most seem to realize and the practices involved in bringing the winds into the central channel are, with no disrepect intended, way beyond most people on this forum and elsewhere. Qi Gong and related practices are useful, no doubt, but they only circulate the winds around the system unless worked with in an intensive, structured way and taught by someone who understands the system.

Fucking around with the energetic systems without knowing what you're doing will lead to burnout. I know 'cause I did it myself about 15 years ago and suffered for it. You need to know how to excite the energies but also know how to release them, otherwise you'll experience horrendous pains and psychosis. There's a good reason why most schools keep these practices secret...

Would you like to elaborate on your experience a bit more?
Also you state that qi gong is useful, but warn of fooling around with energy systems, where exactly is the difference? in qi gong learning to release the energy usually is one of the first things they teach..

In more mainstream circles this is called NoFap. They have their own subreddit.

People there are less aware of their subtle energies since its mostly compromised of college students and generally mainstream kind of people. What's interesting, however, is that even there you'll find hundreds of reports of so called 'superpowers' once you stop ejaculating for a period of time. I would best describe it as if you start developing a magnetic presence around yourself.

THE core message I got from my experiences was that sex and love are the most important things in the universe. Total, unconditional love for yourself and everyone else...and expressing it is SO important, beautiful, fun and enlightening.

I actually thought I was asexual before these experiences and had my mind blown!!

I don't know why I was so against sexuality...I think I was totally in denial.

I really needed this kind of enlightenment...it's a beautiful thing! Entities were EXTREMELY hilarious and overwhelmingly sexual with me and poured SO much love into me...they really wanted me to have fun and see what making love was all about!

...and I love them for it.

...it was actually really, REALLY cute and unexpected, lol.

Perhaps you were so asexual for a reason, so that you could better appreciate the things you experience now. Sort of like the way the darkness teaches one to fully appreciate the light.

I know what you're talking about, although I feel like at some point, once you're aware enough of this energy, it may not matter if you ejaculate, or at least don't do it all the time. And this is because you can put certain intent behind that release, such as intending to release frustration, of fear of the sexual energy itself if your mind becomes overwhelmed by it, like mine sometimes did, or I guess it still could in the future. So I feel like you can basically use intent to release excess energy, while retaining the enlightening sexual energy.

Anyway this is a facinating thread, and I can't wait to see what kind of thoughts what I just wrote generate.

I don't think that you can blanket 'pornography'. It comes in many forms.

A lot of it is exploitative and objectifying, some of it is really touching and beautiful but it all comes under the banner of pornography.

The actual industry surrounding it and commercial depictions of sex are generally very unhealthy.

Sometimes 2 people who are really in love film themselves making love and want to share it with others because they have no guilt or shame attached to it.

Both would be considered porn, one I think is good and healthy, the other not.


There are all kinds of different sexual lifestyles and perversions / kinks and as long as all people are consenting adults and no one is being exploited then I pass no judgement on anyones sexuality.


Like all other areas of life it comes down to consent and exploitation.

I just can't sign up to the concept that sex is wrong and that sharing that with who ever you wish is wrong.

I totally agree! I wouldn't have appreciated those lessons without experiencing asexuality first...when my eyes were opened it was such a fresh breath of air! I didn't expect anything like that to happen in my life!

Who could expect this kind of thing? Especially when you aren't even attempting to expirence it. And I didn't mess around with girls for a while before this happened to me. I was with two girls in the 8 years or so before this, then I started getting into aya and dmt, and met a girl who opened my heart, then another who connected energetically and set off my kundalini. So basically my becoming aware of this stuff was due to the plants, and other people I met through them. And the first girl I mentioned, the one who opened my heart, is very special to me, the love I feel for her is something cosmic in nature, and then we stopped seeing each other and talking, so that separation has been the inspiration to basically attain higher and higher levels of consciousness. This all still seems quite remarkable to me, that love is the catalist for nothing less that the Great Work of the alchemists.

That's so beautiful!

...there is so much love to be expressed!

I have stopped Online-Dating and any kind of porn/visual stimulation about 4 months ago.

Was one of my best decisions ever.


This stuff was depleting my energy, causing anxiety and generally lowering my self-esteem. I'm a much more happy and radiant person now.
I feel much more attraction towards women I see on the streets and they react much more positively towards me. My interactions with the opposite sex are much more authentic and I can enjoy sexual tension.
IMO Porn can have very destructive effects and it's really sad how most teens around the world grow up with it and use it frequently, thinking it's totally normal and benign.

See also http://yourbrainonporn.com/ and the TED Talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

That seems to happen once one becomes aware of the kind of energy they're outwardly projecting, then your intent toward others becomes important on another level. and you're right, things like porn reduce others to mere objects, as opposed to seeing others as reflections of oneself.