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travsha wrote:I feel like money doesnt buy me happiness because I am already happy. Happiness comes from inside.
I do follow all the guidelines above though - I rarely buy material things but any extra income I have is generally spent traveling. But I am happy traveling or sitting in the woods by my house....
I feel happiest when I spend lots of time in nature away from my possessions actually - when I am camping for free in the forest or staying in a hut in the jungle without electricity.... Living the cheap life for some reason helps me focus more on whats important. There is something very freeing about having everything you need in a single backpack and not having to worry about electricity or things and stuff you bought with money.... When you buy things you then want to buy more things, but when there is nothing to buy you dont feel a need for anything more - you just feel satisfied. I'm on this page- and I've never really been happy from money, like sure it brings satisfaction and can make things appear easier. However, I find that I'm only happy right now. I'm not happy in the future, and I'm not happy in the past. The pursuit of a life based off the ideals of society, for me, looks as if it'd lead towards a very dull routine. The problem is, is you have to spend your time to get money, and I'm not happy now if my freedom is impaired from the pursuit of money. I'm trying my best to support my existence on as little money as possible through means of growing food and whatnot. My true passions are creating music and exploring the universe, so being able to live on as little work as possible is something that'd really allow my passions to thrive.
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Totally agree with this. I have a little addition for #3, something I should have done a long time ago. 3b) But don't buy the same cheap crap over and over again like the corrupted so desperately need you to. This is annoying and stressful and you will lose more money than if you wait, save and buy the one that lasts years or a lifetime. Art Van D'lay wrote:Smoalk. It. And. See.
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Orion wrote:Totally agree with this. I have a little addition for #3, something I should have done a long time ago.
3b) But don't buy the same cheap crap over and over again like the corrupted so desperately need you to. This is annoying and stressful and you will lose more money than if you wait, save and buy the one that lasts years or a lifetime. Ah yes, the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness.  Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:Orion wrote:Totally agree with this. I have a little addition for #3, something I should have done a long time ago.
3b) But don't buy the same cheap crap over and over again like the corrupted so desperately need you to. This is annoying and stressful and you will lose more money than if you wait, save and buy the one that lasts years or a lifetime. Ah yes, the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness. Blessings ~ND Just googled that and HELL yes, thanks for putting a name to it  I think I love Pratchett. Art Van D'lay wrote:Smoalk. It. And. See.
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Orion wrote:Nathanial.Dread wrote:Orion wrote:Totally agree with this. I have a little addition for #3, something I should have done a long time ago.
3b) But don't buy the same cheap crap over and over again like the corrupted so desperately need you to. This is annoying and stressful and you will lose more money than if you wait, save and buy the one that lasts years or a lifetime. Ah yes, the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness. Blessings ~ND Just googled that and HELL yes, thanks for putting a name to it I think I love Pratchett. If this is your first exposure to Sir Terry, you're in for a treat. His books are some of the most insightful, intelligent, funny works of literature published in modern times. I recommend Small Gods and Reaper Man as good starting points. Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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Posts: 1892 Joined: 05-Oct-2010 Last visit: 02-Oct-2024
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:Orion wrote:Nathanial.Dread wrote:Orion wrote:Totally agree with this. I have a little addition for #3, something I should have done a long time ago.
3b) But don't buy the same cheap crap over and over again like the corrupted so desperately need you to. This is annoying and stressful and you will lose more money than if you wait, save and buy the one that lasts years or a lifetime. Ah yes, the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness. Blessings ~ND Just googled that and HELL yes, thanks for putting a name to it I think I love Pratchett. If this is your first exposure to Sir Terry, you're in for a treat. His books are some of the most insightful, intelligent, funny works of literature published in modern times. I recommend Small Gods and Reaper Man as good starting points. Blessings ~ND Thanks, I'll look out for those. I've only read The Colour of Magic so far, I genuinely laughed out loud at some moments. I feel the following is relevant to the topic of money and happiness, Pratchett said it so much better: βThe reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.β Brilliant Art Van D'lay wrote:Smoalk. It. And. See.
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you guys do realize you can step outside of it all. the irony is, when ya do step outside of it, everyone throws money at you,.......... but, ya dont need it. if there ever is an economic revolution, the fun is in the revolt, not the treasure. "loph girl incarnate / lab rabbits included"
kids dont try anything annie does at home ,
for for scientific / educational review only.
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Money spent is only a decision and a good decisions will indeed make someone happy.
It's not quite as key a player as glucose and oxygen, mind.
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offtopic: anne halonium wrote:the irony is, when ya do step outside of it,
everyone throws money at you,..........
but, ya dont need it.
if there ever is an economic revolution,
the fun is in the revolt, not the treasure.
Easy as it can be.. Born as a biological man, still feeling like .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIb6AZdTr-Atseuq Everything's sooo peyote-ful..
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I don't have any issue with money. But becoming overly entangled with it and having it be the bedrock for everything you do, that's where for me personally I draw the line. It's one small slice of experience to me, a helper of a certain kind, just as a car gets me from point A to B, or even a plant that helps me realize many things within the psychedelic experience. In my life they all have similar footing, all aids of a sort. An impartial view.
There's a point where money, ime, can easily spill over the equilibrium of everyday living and imbue itself overly so into your personal life. A tipping point.
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Gonzukes wrote:...The problem is, is you have to spend your time to get money, and I'm not happy now if my freedom is impaired from the pursuit of money... When your happiness feeling comes right from a place inside, that makes it independent from metal/spiritual/ethical/economical/political... right-or-wrongs. Stronger still: then working for money is impossible to take away from your happiness, but such would be doing your garden also. I mean if working for money makes one unhappy, avoiding the "working for money" is to no (to lesser) avail IMO, a reflex perhaps. I would follow intuition above happy-indicator for choosing a job. Still my utter respect for those trying out (partly) self sufficiency.
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"Money can't buy you happiness but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery" said Spike Milligan, and I think he was on to something.  I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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