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freebase to Fumarate conversion gone wrong. Options
 
CosmicBookWorm
#1 Posted : 12/13/2015 1:13:10 AM
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I'm pretty confident in regards to why the conversion went wrong, i just need a little bit of guidance in fixing the problem.

What i think caused the problem is that i added around 400mg's of fumarate salt, instead of 310 mg's. I did this because my mg scale is broken, so i decided instead of ordering another mg scale, to just use my gram scale, so i measured anywhere from 380mg's to 400. I didn't think the excess fumarate salt would cause any problems.

The end result is about 3/4 of the dmt a powdery/crystal like appereance and 1/4 gooey.

does anybody here have any tips on how to improve and clean up this mess?

thanks in advance for any help.


EDIT: I was attempting to convert 1 gram.




 

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#2 Posted : 12/13/2015 1:30:14 AM

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If you could detail step by step what did you do or link to the tek used, it could be usefull to understand and help you.
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CosmicBookWorm
#3 Posted : 12/13/2015 1:41:03 AM
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Hey, thanks for the response.

i used this tek.
http://www.shroomery.org.../12506186/fpart/all/vc/1

i did this tek about 2 months ago with no problems, but i had my scale at the time to accurately measure the fumarate salt.

I'm about to upload a picture also
 
CosmicBookWorm
#4 Posted : 12/13/2015 1:46:08 AM
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http://imgur.com/a/Xddwk

Its like powdery/crystal with a hint of goo thrown into the mix
 
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#5 Posted : 12/13/2015 2:37:35 AM

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I don't see why an excess of fumaric acid would cause that, the problem could be a contamination of final product but not as goo.
Are you sure there's no water condensation from acetone evaporation ? If there is a tiny amount of water, as fumarate are really soluble, it could form some goo.
I'd wait to see if it dries.

Or wait for cleverer advice from somebody else

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#6 Posted : 12/13/2015 2:45:24 AM
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huh i just figured it was the fumarate, because on my previous conversion all went smoothly. I'll let it sit overnight and see what happens then.
 
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#7 Posted : 12/13/2015 2:49:57 AM

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DansMaTete is correct.

What you are seeing may very be because your solvent is not particularly selective to DMT & pulled some other impurities from the bark as well. I had the same thing happen when I tried FASA tek.

Separate the solvent via pipette as well as you can & save the yellow oil. Put it in a dish to dry & scrape I over every so often. It should turn into a powder eventually.

From there you can clean up further by converting to base, washing, & redissolving in fresh solvent then just re-FASA SLOWLY. Maybe a ML or two of FASA then wait a few hours for clouding to stop & slowly add in another ML until nothing else precipitates.

When I worked slowly with FASA like that, it took forever, but I watched some very nice DMT crystals form & the crud sticking them slowly dissappear with each FASA precipitation.

Your problem may also have been adding FASA too quickly.

I`'ll try to go back & find the thread I started for the same reason. It may be helpful in your situation.
 
CosmicBookWorm
#8 Posted : 12/13/2015 4:40:49 AM
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thanks for the help concombres, i thought it was going to be simple, didn't expect to put so much time into this today.
 
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#9 Posted : 12/13/2015 5:31:55 AM

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CosmicBookWorm wrote:
thanks for the help concombres, i thought it was going to be simple, didn't expect to put so much time into this today.


here is the link I mentioned earlier. You may find some helpful info in there.
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Be sure you understand what you are doing clearly & the science behind it makes sense before doing each step. Also deffinately ask for help via chat BEFORE doing a step if you are unsure. Spice is an extremely valuable substance & losing product you put work into sucks.
 
 
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