If a person were to soak Passionflower or Caapi or both in IPA for an extended period of time. Would any of the Harmala goodness get extracted in the process?

Has anyone tried this?

My thoughts were to soak the Passionflower and then evap the IPA onto some mullein or other herbs with some spice and have some near Changa blend.

What you all think?

From my extremely limited understanding the alkaloids are not soluble in IPA until they are free based. Similar to Acacia, mimosa and spice, etc.

I don't think it's like pot where you can just simply soak in acetone or IPA to get the goodies outt or I doubt there'd years worth of threads on here talking about it if it was just that simple.

Its actually that simple !
You dont have to freebase them to extract with IPA/ethanol to evap on herb and smoke afterwards !
Harmalas are not that soluble in IPA/ethanol , but with a 1 week soak you are good to go!
10x Caapi anybody ?

Thanks for the advice. I will try this a report back later.

This is a crude but effective way to isolate cappi alcaloids from the leafe

I smiply water boil my cappi leaves for three hours to get the goodies out and discard the leafe fiber..

Durring boiling [in water only] i use a ..[turbo food blender].. to pulverize the leafe particles till EXTREEMLY fine...[ to near dust sized particles]


After enough boiling and high speed agitation..the chopping pulverizing the leaves with blender seems to help to break down the cell walls enough to alow the boiling water to leach out the goodies..

Then i seperate the water containing the cappi alcaloids with a fine coffie filter discarding the spent leafe pulp..

Then i evaporate the water containing the crude cappi alcaloids ..[compleatly].. leaving a brownish goo in dish...

Then making shure all water is gone.. i blend the goo in grain alcohol ..it will not desolve as quickly as it will in water... but it will slowly mix into the pure grain alcohol compleatly..

I then store the capi.. G alcohol mixture in a small one oz dropper bottle to add to my vape pipe with spice...

After alowing the alcohol to evaporate the combo ready to smoke...


This may work better if the cappi is smoked seperatly first then the spice but not shure it matters..


This may be a crude way to extract an maoi but not using harsh chemicles durring extraction puts my mind at ease knowing its all natural..and using this cappi with spice shure makes a difference!

This is a crude but effective way to isolate cappi alcaloids from the leafe

I smiply water boil my cappi leaves for three hours to get the goodies out and discard the leafe fiber..

Durring boiling [in water only] i use a ..[turbo food blender].. to pulverize the leafe particles till EXTREEMLY fine...[ to near dust sized particles]


After enough boiling and high speed agitation..the chopping pulverizing the leaves with blender seems to help to break down the cell walls enough to alow the boiling water to leach out the goodies..

Then i seperate the water containing the cappi alcaloids with a fine coffie filter discarding the spent leafe pulp..

Then i evaporate the water containing the crude cappi alcaloids ..[compleatly].. leaving a brownish goo in dish...

Then making shure all water is gone.. i blend the goo in grain alcohol ..it will not desolve as quickly as it will in water... but it will slowly mix into the pure grain alcohol compleatly..

I then store the capi.. G alcohol mixture in a small one oz dropper bottle to add to my vape pipe with spice...

After alowing the alcohol to evaporate the combo ready to smoke...


This may work better if the cappi is smoked seperatly first then the spice but not shure it matters..


This may be a crude way to extract an maoi but not using harsh chemicles durring extraction puts my mind at ease knowing its all natural..and using this cappi with spice shure makes a difference!

Thank you for sharing that starway. I've read a lot of your Salvia related posts and always want to respond and ask questions, but I'm still not allowed to post in any other areas of the forum except the newcomer areas even though I've been a member for so long. Have you ever combined your caapi extract with Salvia? If so what were the effects compared to Salvia alone? I'm reading a lot about people having good synergy between rue extract and Salvia, but I haven't seen much about caapi leaf and Salvia. Is there a way you could maybe PM me with an e-mail address? I have some things I'd like to ask you about.

After a very long soak of Passionflower leaves in IPA and evaporating onto leaves that there is MAOI inhibition. It's no 10x Caapi, but it vastly concentrates the low MAOIs in Passionflower. I assume the same would be true of Caapi, should a person go that route.

Thanks, Starway, will try!

The last time I extracted caapi leaves, I didn't have a stick blender, but I do now...



Allow me: it's great! Far superior to rue, which even though I like it too, feels rougher with salvia for some reason. The caapi doesn't extend or intensify the experience (MAOI is irrelevant to triterpenes) but it smooths the entry and trip considerably, making it easier to navigate. I use tincture & plain leaf, but have no experience using it with say, 50x...