First of all, I don't know if this post belongs in the LSD forum or not, so if it needs to be moved, forgive me.

Moving onward, I want to share a little bit about an entity I encountered that appears to be tied somewhat to LSD. What is curious is that I didn't meet this entity on an actual LSD trip, but rather in a dream. Of course, there is always the question of "what this being external or just a phenomenon of my subconscious mind", which we could argue about until we're blue in the face. I personally believe in the external existence of myriad spiritual entities, so that belief will color my account of this encounter.

Without going into a full report of the dream (which also had other aspects to it), here are some of the points about this entity that I encountered:

*He is a shapeshifter. He can take many forms, although the form he felt most comfortable revealing himself in to me was one of a one-dimensional, black, stylized depiction of a human - not unlike Mr. Game and Watch from Super Smash Bros, et al.

*He is a trickster, fond of mischief and shenanigans.

*He can exist in many realms, but feels most comfortable in the astral space of an LSD trip.

*He is an embodiment of flux; he feels comfortable in a state of awareness of constant change.

*He has a close relationship with humanity, but is easily forgotten. In the dream both my father (who experimented with LSD in his youth) and I had no memory of him, and this seemed to sadden him, but he was able to psychically help us remember the many times we had encountered him on our respective psychedelic trips/other spiritual experiences.

*He likes to initially disguise himself, partly for comedic value; he related to my father how many times he disguised himself as Coyote (my father's spirit animal), only to reveal himself as being one trickster disguised as another.

*Despite the above features, he was beloved to us; he cares for humanity.

I find this dream interesting, because I've always found LSD to be the most mutable psychedelics I've experienced. Obviously all psychedelics rely to some extent on set and setting, but I've always found that set and setting can dramatically alter the very character of an LSD trip, whereas other psychedelics have more of an inherent "character" to them. This has led me to wonder what the character of an "LSD entity" would be. What kind of being could be at home in the mercurial, intangible essence of an acid trip? Clearly a shapeshifting, wandering trickster.

How is your relationship with your father? Could he validate his involvement?

I have a relatively good relationship with my father. Validate his involvement in what? I know he used LSD and mushrooms in his youth. If you are asking if he has memories of interactions with this entity, I would suspect the answer to be negative. This was, after all, a dream, and even if we accept that I was communicating with a real external entity, dreams don't correspond literally to the waking world. Besides, even if you were to interpret it literally, as I mentioned, the entity made it clear that both my father and I had forgotten him.

Sounds like that entity thought of everything, curses, foiled again?

Just asked because with or without the entity "connection" the entire dream sounds like a repressed issue that your sub-conscious is trying to work out between you and your father.

Well, as I insinuated before, I think it's possible to entertain the idea that dreams can allow communication with external forces without interpreting them literally.



I can see how that might be true, or partly true, but if anything the bulk of the dream would probably have a lot to do with my grappling with the idea of entities that inhabit psychedelic realms (something I think a lot about), if we're looking at dreams as merely internal mental happenings.

What I had really hoped to foster here was a discussion, for those that accept the possibility of external entities or "spirits" that inhabit psychedelic landscapes (a la a traditional shamanic/animist view of these substances), of why LSD is not generally conducive to the sort of dualistic dialogues with entities (as opposed to others, eg DMT, mushrooms, ayahuasca). I'm not trying to put forth my dream as a literal interaction with an "LSD spirit", but I thought that the idea of such entities being shapeshifting, mercurial tricksters was somewhat enlightening.

Hey Yex!

Thanks for this report, I always love to hear about other peoples dreams!

Just to let you see where I stand on this, I dont really believe in entities as external forces, but my current map of the psychedelic experience is very influenced by CG Jungs map of the collective unconscious. The thing that fits most into my worldview at the moment, is that entities are symbol/motive/archetype like complexes that act in the collective subconscious influencing our lives.

Now about your dream.. What came to my mind when reading this, was that maybe this entity, is a part of you(or of the collective unconscious that is influencing your life) that enjoys the shahepshifitng character of LSD. How ever dreams appear to be so complex, and its really hard to tell, where what came from, and why something happens in them. There could be dozens of interpretations to your dream.

Also like you put forth, I feel like LSD has a very strange character, it can feel so different from time to time. To me it is the psychedelic of this time, created by humans for humans, and it inherits the intention to be able to be used for as many different things as possible, enabling humans to create their own reality(with kind of less dogmas)
Also this thread might interest you: ----> https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=68355

I also feel that these being are external. I think they can fully exist without us. Some are benevolent, but most that I've come across are actually malevolent to the point of absurdity.

They are not limited to one form like we are, which makes identifying them difficult. They hide in my dreams also. When I call them out for hiding as random people who don't belong, they become angered. I've learned to never taunt or belittle them.