So what I'm about to post might sound slightly down the reckless path. Please realize that I understand the risks of combining multiple intoxicants, and please trust that I am going about the process of 'finding the sweet spot', so to speak, in as slow and controlled of a manor as a human guinea pig can.

If you don't want to read my whole report, here is the short and skinny: 1 or 2 STRONG Vilca / Cebil (A. Colubrina) seeds or pure bufotenine if you have it, 2 glasses of red wine (up or down based on your tolerance to alcohol), and approximately 5 to 10 grams of plain Mitragyna speciosa (Kratom) extracted to a simple tea using water and a little lemon juice to bump the ph, as well as add a little taste masking. Take the Vilca and wine together, and then the Kratom. More details below...

Anyhow - I've been out of town for the last few days and not consuming any intoxicants, with the exception of moderate alcohol (my great weakness) use. I was very active during my time away and getting a lot of daily exercise. It was a nice cleansing period for me actually.

I got home today, and as the sun went down and the summer heat began to cool off a bit, I was really feeling the urge to partake in the A. Colubrina (Vilca / Cebil) seeds that I have recently become quite fond of. Keep in mind I was just going for a very light and comforting experience and was not looking to go big for this round. I took just a small single seed with two glasses of red wine. When I started to feel warm and fuzzy I decided to make a moderate cup of Mitragyna speciosa (Kratom) tea. I was feeling great from the seed and the wine, with some light CEV's and that euphoric tingling body buzz, "balloon head" sensation, and enhanced visual perception from the bufotenine.

The tea kicked in about 30 min later and just blended beautifully! It's hard to describe in so many words, but it is a combination of a strong analgesic euphoria combined with mild psychedelic euphoria and visuals. There is no discomfort in any way, no nausea or anything else unpleasant. I feel like I'm floating when I walk, and the visuals are just icing on the cake. There is no psychedelic "mind fuck" at all, although I'm sure that with another couple of seeds there may be.

Right now I'm considering taking some d. stramonium seeds and two more a. colubrina seeds to up the psychedelic side of this. When that's in full effect I may just take a ride on the hyperspace highway. I also think I'm going to do some experimentation of creating a vilca / kratom brew for the next time I try this combo. I think drinking the wine first, and then downing a brew of say 3 crushed d. stramonium, 3 crushed a. colubrina, and 8 grams (approx) of plain kratom (or perhaps less as an extract), all in a tea might just be a magical blend.

Sorry for the long babbling post. I'm feeling quite wonderful right now and am enjoying writing this and sharing. I'd love to hear back if any one else tries this out!

Peace!
-idt

The low dose of various substances can be quite enjoyable with proper care taken and the right combo. When done right one can get pretty far out and still return unscathed and ready for a return to societys sheep festival bright and early the next day.
I will be on my way shortly with 8oz of 100proof along with a kratom/blue lotus my smoking tobacco plus others. This will be topped off with some rue a bit of nitorus and maybe a couple of my secrete ingreadents. I do not recomend this by the way. I will be back working at least 12 hours tomarro mabe a lot more. It helps we you are your own boss

Happy Trails

MV

Very nice MV! My blue lotus wine is on about day seven now. This will be my first experience with blue lotus wine. I hear it's quite pleasant! I've never tried the kratom/blue lotus. I'm assuming you make a tea?

Peace
-idt

Yes Kratom tea, smoked blue lotus extract. I found that for me smoking the lotus extract seems to be a bit stronger but shorter lasting than oral so I prefer it over oral most of the time. It (lotus) does not do much for me alone but makes for a nice low dose combo. Just like nitrous not much alone but middle of to end of low dose combos packs quite a wallop a short but good one.

MV

Funny, I was near to post a topic about how great kratom is, associated with bufotenine !

SWIM found that making a tea is not the best way to take kratom. SWIM used to do a tea from plain leaf or extract, but now, he prefer the whole leaf. It allows to take less (2.5 g), and this last longer.
When the effect reach it's max (around one hour later), SWIM smoked a tiny bit of bufo extract (less than 5 mg). Warning, the body load is much heavier than without kratom, arms are weighting one ton each .
It seems that they both synergize very well, bufo increasing kratom, and kratom increasing bufo (but also body load). However, this make a very pleasant body experience. SWIM felt warm and fuzzy for a good hour. Higher dose could provide psychedelic effects, but not sure it would be pleasant if too strong.

I guess I should note my tea consists of powdered leaf mixed in warm water and chugged powdered leaf and all. If i cant get it all i add warm water and mix again repete till cup is clean.

Is SWIY just ingesting the whole leaf, or is he chewing it so that he gets sublingual absorption (the traditional way)? When you say whole leaf, can you elaborate? Do you mean crushed and dried whole leaf, or a whole fresh leaf, or what...?

I use MV's method as well. I make 3 or 4 cups of tea until it just lightly colors the water, at which point I break the tea bag open and chase down the remaining powdered leaf. I've found that just ingesting the powdered leaf straight into the stomach produces weaker effects for me. I think the body processes the plant matter before all the alkaloids can be absorbed into the blood stream. I'm curious to hear more details on SWIY's technique.

Peace
-idt

Yes, SWIM ingest powdered leaf in fruit juice. He do not find that the actives are processed faster that blood absorption, it's rather the opposite. When he used to make a tea, he was using 4 g of powdered leaf and boiled it for 15 mn. The feeling lasted at best 1h30.
Now he ingest 2-2.5 g, it lasts more than 2 hours and it's not weaker. But maybe it's just SWIM and his slow metabolism...

SWIM is not interrested in the sedating effect of mytragine but rather on it's mild stimulant/pleasant effect. With tea, the stimulant effect was very short.
However SWIM tried several kind of kratom and there are big difference in potencies and tastes