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sesamstrasse1312
#1 Posted : 11/17/2015 6:54:16 PM

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Hello there (from Europe)

Found here while investigating several extraction teks, it's very nice to meet you. I'm interested in growing Agaricales and plants in the manner of culinary arts and shamanic tradition. I love the living forms of existence and am gonna live the loving forms of expression.

Everything I do, write and show is for educational purpose in the context of my beloved hobbies! So there is no preparation or usage of anything not legal in my country or yours - I'm just having fun researching topics and making the world a better place. Thumbs up

My new living space has a sunny roof garden, a shadow spangled back garth paradise, a workshop atelier and a studio for whatever happens there... Twisted Evil Love So I looove to grow any medicine or spice needed or just for life's flowering beauty.

My first attempt will hopefully be a further investigation and then formulation of something like let's say "The Tao of THH conversation from rue extraction tek" where I'd like to summarise what has been said so far (yes, I have read a whole lot of threads, evening after evening for weeks now). Somewhere in the future I would like to point out an overview of the most useful performances and put them in an well-arranged order respecting difficulty, needed chemicals and/or desired product or mixture if wished.
But first, before all this happens, I want to research the topic a bit more until I fully understood what's going on and until I've done enough experience with my own experimental testing that will start next year.

One of my next projects will be experimenting with nano coated copper wire and CO2-GANS (blueprint.keshefoundation.org) and something called the Urzeitcode (primeval code or Ebner effect) found by two Ciba chemists in the 80's (urzeitcode.com/english), check it out!

Further I would like to search for dainty Mushroom dishes, Psilocybin-Psilocin conversation/extraction teks and/or Psilohuasca receipes, if there are any of all these, or all in one together (if this wouldn't be the food of the gods then I don't know). Pleased

Another interest will be DMT containing plants in Europe, if there are any, for shamanic arts and/or extraction.

So if this stuff all works out well, I'll be very happy. Meanwhile I'm looking forward to nice conversations and good advise from people here. May the magic be with us and leads us along among peaceful spaces..! Wink
 

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#2 Posted : 11/17/2015 7:57:38 PM

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And I thought this was about astrology!

Welcome I'm sure you'll find tons of information for your perusal. I'm pretty sure that the recipes for psilohuasca you seek are here. Big grin

As for those shroomy culinary delights: enlighten us! We currently have no foodie forum.

Hmmm...Wut?

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#3 Posted : 11/17/2015 8:32:47 PM

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null24 wrote:
And I thought this was about!


This is what I thought as well because they are in the sky in the early morning Laughing

Welcome to the nexus, enjoy everything you find here, safe and happy journeys friend!

Peace
 
pitubo
#4 Posted : 11/18/2015 2:13:57 AM

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Welcome to the forum!

sesamstrasse1312 wrote:
One of my next projects will be experimenting with nano coated copper wire and CO2-GANS (blueprint.keshefoundation.org) and something called the Urzeitcode (primeval code or Ebner effect) found by two Ciba chemists in the 80's (urzeitcode.com/english), check it out!

I read about the "Urzeitcode" thing years ago. It sounded quite intriguing. Did anyone ever replicate the claims? All I can see is basically the same website selling a book, but nothing new for years.

Don't waste too much "energy" on Keshe. He's been looking and quacking like a duck for years already now, but nobody has seen any eggs hatch. I'll eat my words if we can all go on a round trip to the moon in an antigravity craft next year, like he promises. As a teaser, Keshe has proclaimed himself to be the messiah last year.

Don't spend too much money on Keshe unless you are fine with losing that money. Be careful when experimenting with high voltages when you try the electrostatic germination theory.
 
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#5 Posted : 11/18/2015 12:00:57 PM

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Welcome sesamstrasse1312



Much success wished with all your endeavors.
 
sesamstrasse1312
#6 Posted : 11/19/2015 5:07:35 PM

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Very happy Hooray I'm here, how wonderful, and so delighted to see you...Pleased

@pitubo
Thanks for your righteous thoughts. I'm happy about fellows asking after me and my welfare. And the good thing about what Keshe students all over the planet are claiming, is that one doesn't need any money to do this stuff and check it out! We can make it all out of wasted debris. One can make it with bought material if she or he wished to but no one has to... Cool

In my opinion Keshe did no blasphemy, because his statement was not to be the messiah rather than to act as "the messia", "today and with his pen" calling up on humanity "to lay down all arms and all thoughts of greed and misconducts and killings". And what's about it? "Messiah" means 'to be antoined'.
As a child I had a dream, or memory, where I has been antoined by a high priestess. I was lying on an altar in a temple under a pyramid or other templecomplex and I strongly felt that this was a preparation for a task or mission - my earthly life in this world? - kind of a fine setting for that trip... Rolling eyes
So if one chooses to act as an angelic force, what loving people did for me at least as many times I did for them and so did others, to stand for peace and therefore coming through for love then would this not be in the spirit of the creator? If an Iranian man talks in his language, what do we even know about whats about the messiah? Have you ever heard the phonetic affinity between the words messiah and messenger, quite resembling?

The rumors spread by Iranian Media about a flying disc technology ready and antigravity is heard many times since years now. I don't know much about that. But since I have seen flying lights and metallic looking spheres too with my own eyes, hovering in the air at stand and fulfill crazy maneuvers, I at least know that it is not only possible but also even exists. If you would have a company in a country threatened by corrupted groups, listed on top of "Oilcigarchs" Rockefeller, Kissinger and Co's WW3 conquering plans as holy grail, and you would have such a hot technology, would you come forward with it? Would you give it to anybody and let everybody know what's going on since people from all over the world are forces by media to hate your country? Mad
Second thing about this is that: we know since a long time that free energy exists. Some call it zero point, other scalar wave vortex potency, orgon, ki, chi, prana, may the force be with you... Drool But the problem is the transition phase. Because our economy system can not handle free for all energy, it would collapse if everybody would have endless energy and from today on tomorrow all were independent and no one would pay money for energy any more at all. So what Keshe foundation and it's students are doing is not a new invention (they are not the first ones doing free energy research, but almost everyone in the past was made shut up or death by the oil and nuke lobby) but to let the thing slowly roll on, without being shut up or killed and without putting the task destroying the economy in one day. So they make it the way that every human being must choose for himself. It's like Terence McKenna said so, that there will be no solution coming upwards down, not from the government, not from the Spiegel, not from bbc or history channel - "there will be no political solutions, only technical ones." Shocked

About the Urzeitcode: The Swiss pharmaceutical group, todays Novartis, at that time called Ciba, patented the process – and then stopped the research in 1992. So, the discovery was soon forgotten, without the global scientific community taking any notice.
But there are research reports and a renowned German expert botanist Professor Gunter Rothe from the University of Mainz even had replicated the Ciba experiments in detail at his university in 2001 – and was successful afaIh.
After Guido Ebner and Heinz Schürch both passed away unexpectedly in 2001, Ebner's son, Daniel – himself a biologist – on a private basis now wants to export this electric field technology to Africa as soon as possible, as part of an aid project, with the assistance of the former assistant to the UN Food Representative, Professor Jean Ziegler, in order to make it available to local farmers – free of charge. A pitty that hobby grower like us would have to pay a lot of money for a so called 'Greenbox' that costs more than 450 Dollar! And what's in there, some electronic parts and two plates, one out of copper and one of aluminum or slt... Wink
So I put my bet on copper and aluminum, shungit and magnesium. I'll go for magnalium and zinc and I'll produce GANS hopefully fruitful. And by practicing this stuff, my knowledge will rise and a may be able to prepare a Greenbox by myself. there are some YouTube Videos, but there are some electrical parts that are quite expensive and/or dangerous. For this I have do be much more aware of electricity and how everything works out. Confused

So, maybe it works or I just produce a bunch of crap, we will see... Laughing

But before that happens, I'll rather put my 'Tao of Harmaline conversation to THH extraction tek' together. Yeah I read a lot posts and there seems to be a lotta ideas and testing but no "tek" as such at all. Let's see what we can do in the near future... Pleased

Very happy ... let's cut to the chase! Big grin
 
pitubo
#7 Posted : 11/20/2015 1:48:54 AM

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Good luck with your experiments. IMHO some experiments are more useful than other experiments (objectivity and reproducibility are important), but in general experiments are always good.

The problem with a thh conversion tek may be partially that there is as of yet no good proven and reliable way to achieve a guaranteed sufficient separation between harmine and harmaline. There is a pH based approach, but AFAICS there is no tek that incorporates adequate quality control. Maybe the easily available bunk police test kits will help us work out more reliable methods.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/20/2015 8:17:49 PM

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Chromatography of some kind would be the assured method of separation of compounds in general; even paper chromatography can be used for preparatory separation as long as the compounds in question have satisfactory separation.

I've not used this for harmine/THH, in fact it's been rather a lot of years since I did any chromatography at all.

Oh, and welcome, sesamstrasse!

That Urzeitcode business seems interesting.




“There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work."
― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
pitubo
#9 Posted : 11/21/2015 2:07:06 AM

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Chromatography is IMHO currently not a realistic option for the masses. Columns may be improvised, solvents may be available over the counter. But how to obtain a useful stationary phase? What methods of detection are available to the amateur? (okay, in this particular case, holding a blacklight tube up to a transparent column would work.)

I doubt if even paper chromatography is very practical for general use. Not every type of paper is equally suitable for chromatography purposes. What type of over the counter paper would give a non-polar stationary phase?

Despite the doubts and criticism expressed above, I would welcome any form of "tek" that makes these techniques practically available to kitchen experimentation. I'd love to be able to create consistently useable silica gel from hydrochloric acid and waterglass (or even silica kitty litter and lye).

The bunk police kit already lowers the barrier for entry to the technology a lot, but it is still limited by price and single source availability. Still better than having to order materials from Merck, which is impossible for mortal hobbyists.
 
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#10 Posted : 11/24/2015 1:27:24 PM
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hey sesamestreet,
i am quite familiar with the russian tradition that dates way earlier than the ciba affair, discovered the russian ways way back in 1989 and by then it has been going for decades and decades. i would like to bridge both german speaking and russian traditions, but german is not among the languages that i speak or understand. these two traditions may cross-pollinate quite well, methinks Smile i wanted to send you a pm to keep in touch, and possibly to seriously collaborate in the future, but, alas, i did not become a real member for some unknown reason or another, so i couldn't send a pm. keep me in the loop. and yes, i am a mad scientist myself looking for other mad scientist to investigate together how deep the rabbit hole goes Smile
 
 
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