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My experience with Spice so far Options
 
Lusid
#1 Posted : 11/7/2015 6:04:07 AM

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(Small note added after the write up, i didn't expect it to be this long. Sorry if it's too much)

I've never been great at starting these, so i'll begin with one thing that's been bugging me for a little while now: The smell and taste. Everyone i've spoken to, everything i've read, everyone seems to have one consensus, it smells and tastes bad. Well not for me. Right from day one i've absolutely adored the smell and taste of spice. It reminds me of a candy form of the old powdered drink Tang from the 90's. I consider myself fortunate because i just cannot get enough of it. Sorry, had to get that out there.

So for starters, a little about me. I am neither a religious nor spiritual person. So on one hand it doesn't exactly follow in line with most people who enjoy exploring their minds/subconcious in that respect, but on the other hand i feel i get to offer my rather "left brain" take on things. My experience with psychedelics prior to Spice has been limited to LSD. Now this isn't for lack of trying. I've given Psylocibin more than a fair shot but no matter what i do it just does not work on me. The reason isn't clear to me, perhaps an extremely high natural tolerance. The first time attempted just made me ill. Second (a very high dose from a different batch) just did nothing. This of course made me somewhat worried that Spice wouldn't do anything either. Thankfully i was wrong... kind of. Whether it be poor technique or impure spice (i am not at the stage where i extract my own yet sadly) it seems like i need to take what some would consider a high dose to get where i want to be.

So onward to my experiences thus far. I've mentioned in my first post that my experience does not seem to line up with what i've read so far. I've read reports from here as well as a few other places and the only thing i have in common with those is hearing voices or entities speaking to me, the impressively quick effectiveness of the molecule, and the insanely alien nature of the visions/experience. On the other hand, it seems to be largely accepted that each journey is unique or different whereas mine are always the same. Well, similar would be a more appropriate word. I always go to the same place, speak with one of two beings, and the overal nature of the trip is usually the same. Another odd thing is i don't really understand the whole "hyperspace" description given so far. Many times i've read it described that things go fast. Now obviously that could mean many things but the only thing about my experiences that matches that is how fast patterns change. Aside from that it's rather calm, or at least calming to me.

The very first time i've tried it i went to what i could only describe as a limbo. Only instead of a blank void like you'd normally think of when someone uses that word i had insanely unbelievable fractal patterns and colors shifting wildly. They were only Closed Eye Visuals so i just laid back, relaxed with my eyes shut and enjoyed. It was amazing in the literal use of that word. I was in complete awe as i thought "This is way cooler than LSD". That's when something surprised me. I heard a voice answer my thoughts. I knew the voice was in my head but i heard it very clearly. Now this is not a normal thing for me, as i don't have an inner monologue with my thoughts (something i learned way later in life is uncommon). Yet on this i heard my own as well as the answers to them in a very different voice from my own. Now aside from the CEV's and the voice something else was very strange, and the reason i called this place Limbo. I felt as though my conciousness was just sitting off in some form of waiting room while instead of experiencing everything first hand the spice instead was just dumping it all into my memory faster than i could experience it. The impression i had at the time was it caused my brain to opperate faster than it could experience, so instead of lagging behind it just went elsewhere and allowed me to review the memories being dumped in.

Another interesting thing happened in Limbo. One of the things spoken to me by "Him", that's what i call this entity, was "Man... It is a mess in here. I'm doing my best to clean up". Prior to this i have had a notoriously poor memory. Even day to day things would slip my mind, and i have very very little recollection of my younger years. Well ever since my first experience things have been notably better. I also seemed to have recovered scraps of memory from long ago, vivid enough to actually seem like i can revisit it. Only bits and pieces, almost like a couple seconds here and there, but more than i had before. I also somewhat recognised this entity "Him" that i was speaking to. It was a familiar feeling. I can't say the voice was familiar, nor the image as i didn't see anyone. Only had the feeling someone was there. It felt very old and from a long time ago. It also felt friendly and like someone i've spoken to and confided in. It made the entire experience that much better.

The second time was what i think was the closest i got to breaking through. I to this day do not believe i have, but it's possible this was it. I saw the room suddenly change and with it, it seemed to expand. I was in a bigger place but not completely changed. My girlfriend was sitting next to me and i think even more strange than anything she was completely UNchanged. Once i got to this place, every surface of every wall or object in the room had ever shifting and rapidly changing patterns that differed from one another. I couldn't begin to describe them, but they were incredibly intricate, but had the feeling i could only describe as a funhouse. The nature of the designs were what you would expect to find in one if someone had unlimited time and drive to make it as detailed as possible. And somehow moving and shifting. I was in complete shock as i look around and the only real thought i had was "This cannot be happening right now". Then it was replaced very quickly by "Oh... I've been here. I remember this place. Oh my god it's this place again!". I had such a strong feeling of familiarity here that it could be rivaled only by returning to the house you grew up in when you were very young and had just about forgotten about only to see every single detail of the place brought back a flooding rush of memories as it is perfect in every detail to how you (now) remember it. I know this has been said about experiences before, but words i feel fail to describe it. Along with this absolute chaos of a place i was also assaulted by sounds. These sounds were almost wacky in nature for lack of a better word. No sound effect or noise lated any longer than between a quarter of a second to a half second, and shoved in there were also words. Something was speaking to me in this manner. I've called this "The Thing", because i feel like i always have. Yet another entity i was strangely familiar with.

I know it seems weird that the two entities i speak of are "Him" and "The thing", not having any names, but i did at one point ask what they were called and the answe i got was "There are no names here". Apparently, assuming where i go is an actual place, the entities there can be anywhere all at the same time and be in contact with whoever, whenever they want. So names or titles are just not used. While i am there i feel okay with it, but anytime i try to think back on how exactly that works and makes sense i can't fully get there.

I have a hard time remembering the trips i take. Almost like dreams, the more time that passes from them the harder it is to remember. But one of the oddest things that happened was The Thing greeted me at the start of one trip with great hostility. Yelling (in it's odd sound effect method) that i wasn't supposed to come back and that i now would never leave. It then gave me an audible and visual count down that i was given the impression i would die once it was over. What also didn't help was during it i started to have odd feelings, almost like i though it was right. Once it got to the end however i waited in anticipation for something to happen. When nothing did i asked if it just lied to me and it replied "Yeah kinda". It has done things like that a couple times. It was so odd that it has it's own personality, completely different from the helpful and kind "Him" i would sometimes encounter, though never both simultaniously.

So that is the look into my journey's with Spice so far. Each time i take enough to get me to that place it's always like that. Either Him or The Thing meets up with me and we have an experience together. There were a couple other details i didn't get to as i realized how long this was becoming. I hope whoever takes the time to read this enjoyed it, and even more so can shed some light on whether or not they too have a similar situation. One other detail i will add (that does seem to match with others sometimes) is there is always a door in the room i see. I can never actually move around, and have never been though it. That's why i don't think i've broken through yet because i truly believe that will let me pass though the door. I have strangely seen it open a couple times, and even stranger is what i saw through it. Normality. No patterns, no shapes, no shifting. I saw standard grass and sky, like stepping outside of a house. And honestly i don't know how i feel about that.
 

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Spaced Out 2
#2 Posted : 11/7/2015 7:56:09 AM

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I too enjoy the smell of spice and I guess I can relate to the smell of tang sort of. When I vape it there's virtually no smell but when hitting on the changa I can see where one might think it stinks, and I think it might be from the heaviness of the harmalas in my mix. Smells good before smoking it, but I've come to like it and my saliva glands almost tighten up when catching a whiff. Have you tried changa? If not I definitely recommend it.

Mushrooms, problem with them is potency varies. They can be quite nice though when you get some good ones which is why I turned to fruiting my own so I knew what I was getting and that every aspect of the process was controlled. Same with spice, I've only extracted my own from the start so that I knew exactly what I was getting and is a wonderful part of the experience that I find fun. Always try to strive to extract your own if at all possible. All the info you need to do so is here on the nexus as I'm sure you already know.

It all has seemed "familiar" from the first time experiencing dmt. Very strange indeed I thought, and continues to feel that way. I myself can't relate to the memory issues as I've always had a very good one, I'd say on the verge of photographic. It's good to hear though that it seems to be unlocking past/old memories albeit slowly. Integrate what you can from the experiences. Sometimes they may feel darker in nature and I've had a few myself though I think mine stemmed from not being in the right mindset even though I thought I was and it was just exposing some flaws in my ways. I've had a mixture of entities through the course of my journeys, some seemed hostile in nature but most seem to be just wanting to show me things. Either way I've come to the point that even though while the experience is seemingly overwhelming I just don't take it too seriously, by that I mean I don't think there's any creepy spirits or whatever lurking in my head waiting to pounce with my return. Have I learned a lot from these journeys over time, absolutely, it's changed my life in some profound ways and for the better in my opinion. It's all in your intentions and how you integrate. A lot of my trips are similar in nature but some can be rather bizarre which is the beauty of dmt. I think for myself if it was always the same then I'd get bored rather quickly with it. Sometimes I laugh at the sounds I hear cause some of them do sound absolutely wacky and I can't help but laugh. It is such a strange substance to say the least, and I happen to enjoy every bit of it.

Thanks for personal background/ experience report, I enjoyed the read, and look forward to more.Smile

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Emptiness
#3 Posted : 11/9/2015 1:49:42 AM
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Spaced Out 2 wrote:
It is such a strange substance to say the least, and I happen to enjoy every bit of it.


Strange it is indeed, in fact I find the doorway to DMT is labeled 'incredibly bizarre' and everytime I come down I find my self saying 'that was so weird'

The brain is plastic meaning that it can strengthen connections the more you think about them, 'neurons that fire together wire together'. So just by constantly remembering your trips and dreams you will create a better recall system. You could also try supplements and nootropics Thumbs up
 
 
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