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Whats up with confusion/anxiety on oral doses vs smoked? Options
 
daspaismusflo
#1 Posted : 11/4/2015 10:33:52 AM

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Everytime I vaporize it is very blissful, even on MAOIs. No confusion or anxiety (low-medium doses).

Everytime I take DMT via the stomach I start feeling really weird about stuff and get kind anxious because of the confusion. It feels like "huh? wtf?" about absolutely nothing.

Because of this I have been keeping my doses low and I am afraid to up it, I just don't like the feeling and it just doesn't feel like what I feel when vaporizing the spice even whilest on MAOI (changa), it feels so clear and refreshing.

I don't know why this is, any else feel that way?

 

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daspaismusflo
#2 Posted : 11/5/2015 11:59:33 AM

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Anyone?
 
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#3 Posted : 11/5/2015 5:07:07 PM
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You're not alone. Everyone varies in what sort of experiences they prefer when diving deep with DMT; some prefer smoking straight freebase, some changa, some love pharma, some prefer brews; some prefer a mix of all of them.

Oral brews and pharmahuasca are quite a different beast, compared to say vaporzing DMT or smoking changa ime. You're in it for the long haul. Big doses of oral harmalas and the synergy with oral DMT also add several different aspects to the overall experience that can be trying for people. Some prefer to keep it short and sweet with smoked DMT/changa.

Im with you to a degree. I prefer smoked DMT/changa somewhat moreso than oral DMT. I know many have said that they feel brews or pharmahuasca can/is more of a thorough/healing experience, which I can totally understand; but for me I find changa and/or smoked DMT just as healing in many regards, given the persons mindset, intentionality, personal life, ritual of using leading up to the experience (im sure theres many factors to this). Smoked DMT and changa can be very insightful, thorough and healing; just as much as oral DMT.

But yeah, much less trepidation leading up to smoking versus taking oral, ime.
 
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#4 Posted : 11/5/2015 9:20:27 PM

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Oral indeed does not feel the same as smoking, if you were expecting this, now you have experienced the/a difference.

And the few trials rectal (maoi&spice both in salt form) was yet another touch to the experience, felt like in between smoking and oral.

So oral made you feel less at ease. There is an opportunity here to not just undergo but examine exactly what makes you "anxious because of the confusion".

Oral sessions permit to become investigating sessions, with oral there is room and space and time for that kind of activity. To examine the "vibe" deeply on purpose, and ask it questions like: "Where do you come from? Do you have a name? A mission? etc etc..". And place intentions like "I really want another vibe if that would not be asked too much please" , or more in a commanding way whatever intuition suggests. It is not always easy but there is a possibility to "steer the weather" in oral sessions, and there is always the (helped) purge to force a vibe to change.

Oral is more an energetic Plasticine puddle to drift in and to see what you can detect and accomplish in vibe-management, all very possible well below break trough. TBH, when hunting for a BT the cat chooses not oral but vape.
 
 
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