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Tetris
#1 Posted : 11/1/2015 10:45:38 PM

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Hey people of the nexus, found myself here earlier looking at threads relating to some of the questions I have been asking. Decided to create an account to ask more of a personalised question.

I will be taking Dmitri for a ride for the first time some day soon. I have only one previous experience with psychedelics, and that was with magic mushrooms; the trip I had from them was quite bad and stirred me away from attempting acid with any confidence. I have different intentions with Dmitri, where before the drugs I have took have been for recreational use (the green herbs, mandy, k, charlie; just to give an idea of my experience). ketamine; I thrived of the sensations and closed eyed visuals it would give me, but as much as I used it to explore it, it was still recreational. But with Dmitri I have completely different purpose for it; I seek exploration in to realm of higher states of awareness and consciousness. So to the question; with no real experience with psychedelics will I be able to handle what is thrown at me, and do I need to be 100% ready for it? I feel as if I'm ready, but I have been browsing a lot today on other forums about how psychedelics have really messed people up, even though they are not specifically talking about DMT, it still nerves me. I'm not naive to believe anything what is written on the internet, and I know the psychedelics themselves don't cause issues, but trigger issues what have been hidden. Interested in what you all have to say!Very happy

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Taking DMT for the first time, don't have background with psychedelics. Will it be too much to handle? Using for the purpose of awareness, not recreational.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/2/2015 12:54:23 AM

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I don't think so. perhaps maybe changa would be the way to go with its slightly slower onset. I think the biggest disturbance alot of people feel is with how rapidly you enter the trip.

I personally only vape the freebase because I love its rapid nature. I feel immediately calm as all my anxieties vanish. Then with a good dose, reality vanishes, and there is an explosion of rapid visuals. This too can be hard, on a full 50mg vape I thought I had actually harmed myself despite knowing this was impossible. It felt like an enternity, but after what was only a few seconds this too vanished, and I was only left with bliss.

Do some research on proper set and setting. A clean room, at the end of the day when my mind is too tired to wander, and only has enough energy to observe and listen is exactly what works best for me.
 
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#3 Posted : 11/2/2015 3:19:28 AM

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It really is hard to be fully "prepared" for a DMT trip, especially if it is your first time. The best thing to do is to try and go into it with no expectations. You'll see that a lot around this forum. It is, of course, easier said than done.

I guess on the flip side, it only lasts +/- 10 minutes from start to finish if vaporizing freebase. Changa generally lasts a bit longer. You have other routes of administration too, like Ayahuasca or Pharmahuasca. Many different means to the same end, really.

As 1ce said, set and setting are truly the most important thing when it comes to any and ALL psychedelics. Neglecting this is what leads to disaster or terror filled trips. Sometimes those happen anyway but that is the nature of the experience...completely unpredictable and mysterious. Hopefully all goes well for you, it is an extremely powerful, yet rewarding molecule.

Best of luck! Let us know how it turns out! Welcome to the Nexus by the way!
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#4 Posted : 11/2/2015 1:22:00 PM

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Why do you had a bad trip on Shrooms?
Can you tell why that happend? Not necessary us, but do you have an explanation for the reasons you had a bad trip?

What exactly is the reason you never tried shrooms again? Or other psychedelic compounds?
Fear?
Do you think you could handle a situation similar bad than your shroom trip again, but this time more intense, but with very short duration?

These are the questions i would like you to brood over for a while.
If it is fear which stopped you, i have bad news for you:
No one gains higher states of awareness and consciousness without going through the valley of darkness, either sooner or later.

It doesn't matter what psychedelic substance you take, you can't cheat your fear by taking N,N-DMT instead of 4PO-DMT/4HO-DMT.(In case you don't know: you already consumed a form of DMT.)
Also the means of transportation doesn't matter if you end up in the same place.

Regarding "recreational use"; i would recommend to forget this phrase and rather focus on intention, humbleness and respect.

IMHO you experience with MDMA and Ketamine and your bad shroom trip should give you lots of insight about altered states of consciousness, you are not a complete beginner when it comes to that.
 
 
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