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SlightlyToxic
#1 Posted : 10/25/2015 9:59:03 PM
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(obviously) New here.

I mostly spend my hours delving into the Myco arts, watching my little fruits grow and prosper, and in doing so, I've learned that there's just as much satisfaction in simply producing your own entheogens.

Which brings me to a large part of the reason for me being here - I've recently become highly motivated to expand my knowledge compendium outward, share some of my own knowledge, and in doing so, hope to learn more about what I already do.

Also massively interested in talking to others about truly heroic psilo doses ala Kilindi Iyi. Pushing the boundaries of what most would consider pointless or reckless.

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#2 Posted : 10/26/2015 4:08:24 PM

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Welcome to the nexus. While I haven't consumed mushrooms too many times, I have had a couple of spectacular experiences and I intend to eat them more often in the future, I love their energy.
 
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#3 Posted : 10/26/2015 10:46:23 PM

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What are we talking about with heroic doses? I've definitely taken 5gs of shrooms on one occasion and 7 on another. I've also consumed some ridiculous amounts of L
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#4 Posted : 10/27/2015 12:43:53 AM

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Welcome to the Nexus, think you'll like it here! Cool

Kilindi Iyi recommends dried cubensis doses in the 30g range...whole different ball game to McKenna and definitely not for the faint of heart or mind.

SlightyToxic, like you I am a fan of the mushroom and the myco arts, a great hobby indeed...what species have you grown?? These days I'm not really interested in cubensis, but I highly recommend Panaelous cyanescens...the next species on my list are Panaeolus cambodgiensis and Psilocybe mexicana.

Having had more than my fair share of experience of cubensis and mushrooms in general, I wouldn't mind pushing the boat out into deeper waters, but it definitely wouldn't be with cubensis mushrooms personally, these would actually be the last species I would want to dose super high on actually, they seem harder on one's system than the other species I have sampled and I think the body noise would become too much of an issue (unless you were blown well past that at those doses). It might be down to the required amount of fungal matter that needs to be ingested to get to a certain level, but the less material the better I think which is why I'm more interested in these more potent species. Psilocybe mexicana grabs my attention in particular as this was highly revered by the Aztecs and still is by Mexican mushroom using indigenous tribes today such as the Mazatec who really know their mushrooms.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/27/2015 12:47:55 PM

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Bancopuma wrote:


Kilindi Iyi recommends dried cubensis doses in the 30g range...whole different ball game to McKenna and definitely not for the faint of heart or mind.

Good god. Stop

7gs of dried p. Cubes was enough, and that was a tea extract, so I didn't really consume any mushies. If I was really pushing it I could go to like 10gs but fuck...30?

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#6 Posted : 10/27/2015 2:25:05 PM

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I never ate more than 4,5g of psilocybin fungi and there were several times where the mushroom scared me, but it always wore of after the wounds healed and It always felt like a chance to improve.
I heard that people who took really high doses report that lower doses are more of a challenge than the high ones, because high ones bypass some of the personal struggles and get right to the point, if you know what I mean.
Can anyone report back on that?
 
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#7 Posted : 10/27/2015 3:53:06 PM
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First and foremost welcome to the nexus!
Have you tried any extractions on mushrooms? For me the way to go is take mushrooms and smoke 10x enhanced caapi leaves (be careful maois and rimas are contraindicated with a myriad of substances!) on top of it. For me that is a great way to explore the space mushrooms provide you with. I want to try mushrooms with caapi tea but I havent gotten around to it (time restraints).

What species/strains are your favorites?
 
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#8 Posted : 10/27/2015 7:53:41 PM
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Thanks for the welcome!

I've been mostly dabbling in cubensis varieties, a number of them including Golden Teacher (who doesn't?), B+, Mckennaii and an unnamed mycelium fusion of Blue Meanie and Orissa India's (new project!) and have been growing a few edibles as well - currently have a few jars of Winecaps about to be spawned into some trays. Soon I'll delve into ornamental exotics.

As for my dosing, my deepest journey has been in the realm of 15 grams which were ground up and mixed in with honey. I couldn't necessarily speak for all experiences at that range, but to answer Empyrean's comment - it did blow me well past the point of personal struggle. The body noise ironically tends to assist. It felt like being slowly dropped into a womb that shot off into hyperspace. Body and mind are completely gone and you come back around to a state of hyperclarity. I had entity contact with the machine at the end of the universe, as well.

My personal opinion is that the 4-10g range is tough to deal with because it doesn't quite push you past the barrier. Up until even higher, you're just going further and further in. While that is valuable, it can be a nightmare. Similar, I suppose, to the difference between a ten strip and a thumbprint.

Talkswithtrees - The wife and I are currently planning on adding MAOIs to our next journey. I thought about Syrian Rue or maybe even going all out and having a psilo/changa session. Our substance use is limited to mushrooms and cannabis, and neither on any prescriptions so drug interaction with maoi's is at a minimal near constantly.

I love Golden Teachers and Cambodians, but ironically my personal favorite right now is a mystery variety of cubensis that I keep a small batch going of.

Cheers!
 
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#9 Posted : 11/1/2015 1:27:27 AM
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Big grin That sounds like magic waiting to happen! Please let us know how it goes! Some of my deepest experiences with our fungi friends has been with smoking 1:1 (dmt:leaf) changa. I use full spectrum acacia confusa alkaloids for the spice and 10x caapi for the leaves and a sprinkle of bufotenine (beware its not for everyone even my highly purified extract -via the no smell tek- can be a little rough at times) when I'm feeling extra adventurous. That changa smoked at the peak of a 6g mush trip for me is incredible. Start low and work your way up tho. Harmalas and mushies can take you extremely far!
 
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#10 Posted : 11/2/2015 5:04:40 AM
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Welcome Smile

I'm not overly versed with mushrooms, although I had my first foraging season last year; found 3oz's of P.Sub
Having only dosed up to 3g's I can't say I have gone too deep, although these little woodlovers are potent! ~1g feels roughly equivalent, but different of course, to a nice solid tab of LSD. Laughing

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#11 Posted : 11/2/2015 10:13:16 PM
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Welcome Welcome. I look forward to hearing about your experiences with "truly heroic psilo doses", should be a blast.
 
 
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