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UgraKarma
#1 Posted : 10/14/2015 11:27:50 AM

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Although my first DMT experience was over two years ago now, I look at the present as the start of my journey. I am currently in a period where I'm sitting down and working with the spice as frequently as seems appropriate (it does indeed have an interesting mechanism of letting you know if it is not the right time,) fiercely consuming literature specifically on the topics of DMT's, psychedelic experiences, metaphysics, etc.. I'm also, perhaps most importantly, taking the work more seriously in terms of both pre-flight considerations and integrative follow-up work.

And I also have begun posting on the Nexus board. Thumbs up

So I was thinking to myself, if this were real life and not an internet back and forth - and we were all hanging out in the same room, what would be the type of question I'd actually want to ask, and hear what "the elders" had to say regarding it? How can their wealth of experience possibly help me with the part of my journey I'm at right now?

And then it suddenly seemed so obvious...

"Knowing what you do now about the DMT experience, is there any advice you'd like to give your younger self - right when your 'young and hungry' phase of hyperspace exploration was kicking off?"

The question actually came out of an interview on a podcast that I'd listened to earlier today, in which the guest was Meriana Dinkova, a psychotherapist who runs trips to work with curanderos in Peru, but also serves as a guide in sessions in the US. She began waxing on mechanisms for navigating hyperspace, productive dialogue to have with dark entities to improve those encounters, and similar strategies for improving your experiences while in a trance state. Some of it struck me as brilliant and I thought to myself, "Wow, I'm glad I heard this, because it would probably take me years of work with spice to come into these types of tools on my own."

So, in the interest of building my toolbox out to the best of my abilities, I put the question to you all; Is there any advice that you've picked up along the way that could have really helped you had you only known it from the start?
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -lovecraft
 

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#2 Posted : 10/14/2015 12:35:39 PM

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wow, if i would have known the things that are lurking hyperspace before, i would have gotten more training in self-defence - my main goal at the moment, both physically and psychologically.

hyperspace fool's posts offer lots of quality information on that topic:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=45135

also make yourself familiar with this onefor some basic defense-techniques:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...;t=36307&find=unread


take your time and read ngc_2264's post in the quality experience reports section. that might happen to anybody who thinks dmt is a toy you can play around with. although his naivity and ego-craving might have brought him in this nasty position, no one is really safe from falling in the same trap:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=62070

and, after reading this you might be thrilled to go on a crusade against darkness. concentrate on the light, this path is much more rewarding i guess.

so, this would be my advice to my former, more naive but more happy self. would i have taken it seriously without my experiences? probably not, so i got a life changing lesson that i maybe really needed.


stay safe, much love and growth!
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#3 Posted : 10/14/2015 2:57:45 PM

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Honestly, I jumped headfirst into psychedelics, and I dont know if I ha e any advice like that for my younger self. I might say things like "you're going to be fine." "You can handle more than you think you can" and maybe "be prepared because others are going to turn to you for help, so you better be able to handle that too. (But don't worry you can)"
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#4 Posted : 10/14/2015 10:35:43 PM

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332211:

Thanks so much for the links to threads that cover various psychic self-defense strategies.

I realize that I'd mentioned the podcast inspired this inquiry, and thought that because your main goal at the moment concerns this type of preparation, you might find something helpful in the podcast yourself.

"Navigating Altered States" Podcast Episode Link

Tangentially - I'm also starting to wonder if dark entities (or other artifacts to be encountered in hyperspace,) can be a part of the presentation of a specific batch of DMT, perhaps due to alkaloids from its source, as much as it is (or even part of as it is,) a product of set, setting, and the unknown. What I'm getting at is if it is possible that Terence's MHRB extract has something which makes dark entity contact more likely than Dennis' ACRB extract? Of course there is know way to know for sure, but I'm starting to wonder if this is in fact very possible.
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -lovecraft
 
ThatDirtyHippy
#5 Posted : 10/14/2015 11:36:41 PM

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I actually was just talking about something similar to this
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=67640

Set and setting is an enormous factor.
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#6 Posted : 10/14/2015 11:43:58 PM

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Hmmm, hyperspacefool has a plausible explanation for meeting dark entities:

"The more worrisome malevolent entities do seem to not be interested in targeting your typical doubting thomas type psychonaut... at least they tend not to come after you specifically or have any special enmity for people who have not demonstrated themselves as being of a certain level. In this sense, doubt may in fact shield you from ever encountering the higher ups.

Of course, if you come stumbling into their domains or happen to be in their path... it will only make matters much worse for you. You can think of it like the way small time drug users are not likely to be targeted by high level LEO. It is only by being a serious character that you will get a task force assigned to you or have some high ranking members of the DEA concerned about you specifically... and yet, if you happen to stumble into their line of sight accidentally, you will still be subject to being taken down."

And:

"I think that the real bad asses out there tend to come around when they perceive you as a potential threat. This generally entails you having developed enough skill to have thwarted some of their plans and dispatched enough of their mid-level minions.

I know that my worst encounters with them came after I had spent a lot of time clearing out demonic forces from places like dank ruins, caves, and other places that locals tend to fear. I have had 2 demon princes personally come after me with a cadre of lesser demons as well as the assistance of a number of their human pawns. Situations like this are extremely dangerous. In this one I mention now, I would not have made it through without the aid of an archangel and a willingness to admit I had reached the extent of my ability to protect myself... I was pushed so close to my limit that calling on the highest powers to take over was my last resort.

This kind of thing only happens when you are on their radar... and you only get there by being a massive thorn in their side... something which is unlikely to happen if you are not fairly skilled and brazen... which tends to imply that you are not on any kind of fence."

Well, my bad encounter - which you can find on the forums, happened, when I tried to become like buddha/jesus... there is so much suffering in my familiy that I tried hard to find a solution to it, just like those guys. And then the ship went down, both in hyperspace as in the physical world. I was confronted with so much greed, hate and malevolent people. So, the more you want to "achieve" the more problems will be encountered?!

Oh dang, they even put jesus on the cross... there is definitly something going on - both in the physical world and in hyperspace, something like an epic battle. Might still be possible that we are all one - all alone in the universe, and fight this "battle" for our entertainment...

Thanks for the link, I very much appreciate any hints in that field. Gotta check it out soon.

Much love,
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