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Amaterasu
#1 Posted : 9/27/2015 9:41:09 AM
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Hi all,

Thanks for your knowledge on these boards. Not only did I successfully manage to freebase DMT from Acacia Confusa Root Bark but I happened to use the Limonene Tek. I also am pleased to have discovered the turmeric extract on here too. What a rushy euphoric herb!

Ok straight to the point. I freebased something like ALOT of DMT from that package of ACRB. Great. This happened a year ago. I went and made a Syrian Rue tea which I enjoyed heaps on its own. This time it was to be with the DMT as a tea. I did not want a sudden wild trip experience but nothing could have prepared me for what was to come next.

Ten mins later I was on my mate's bed. Totally laughing my balls off. The colours were unbelievable. I saw so much stuff I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. Hindu yantras. Chakras etc. Fractalized entities coming and going.

Then bam. I saw a star of david going 3D and the fractals started surrounding me. Holy f*ck. After that the fractals got a bit too close for comfort. I called my mate for help. He came and made sure I was ok. I felt a sense of dread. Like something bad gunna happen around the corner. Next thing I know I felt my body get penetrated anally by some invisible force. It felt weirdly scary as f so I blacked out.

Next I find myself on the floor under the bed. The DMT went and dug out my fears and memories. It proceeded to show them to me one by one as I began to see the infinite in itself. It played with my beliefs too. I got scared, confused and lost. I tried to hold onto my sense of self. Instead I ended up convulsing into a seizure. The DMT showed me a very horrible reality of realities. That this world is is purely a dream. And you are stuck there in this dream, this maya and can't get out of it. It also showed me that my belief in God is a pure fantasy and only despair awaits us all. This was far too much for me to handle so I blacked out again.

I woke up to see my friend looking at me. The terror was still there. Replaced by him. He became the manifestation of that terror. I felt completely trapped again, unable to move and hopelessly lost. I was just stuck in his room for the ride. Blacked out again. If I wasn't physically paralyzed I would have ran out.

My mate saw the whole thing and told me when I recovered (at the hospital) I was banging my bleeding head against the wall, looking completely lost. I don't recall this, even now. He even said you tried to attack the poor nurses who were trying to help. I was shocked - why would I even do that? I recovered the next day, completely shaken and unable to ground myself. A nurse said I looked like I had been in a fight. Sure enough I ran to a mirror and saw bloody grazes all over my forehead, arm and knee from the DMT induced seizures. The knee took the longest to heal as it was a deep carpet burn when I was thrashing on the floor.

Now to this day it doesn't shock me so much. They're memories now. I understand why I was shown this despairing illusion of reality even if I didn't ask for it. I have been suffering from some sort of PTSD-anxiety flashbacks and I realize that one day my problems from DMT will seem insignificant and disappear into nothing. I am grateful for my mate for calling the ambulance as he could not do anything when I was stuck in the blackouts.

However what I saw of him on DMT turned out to be true as he turned out to be one hell of a problematic friend down the track. I cut him out of my life and have no interest in making friendships with people who don't treat you with equal respect. He was an emo user and all he wanted was to prop himself against others so he could feel better.

I am not sure whether or not I will use DMT again. Bad trips are something that is never easy to deal with and I am still in the process of getting over it. It gets easier one month at a time but you're still left here, never quite fully satisfied with your sense of self, nor not sure what to do with your life. Do I refuse to acknowledge the illusion and terror and move on, or do I accept that vision and understand that not everyone manifests joy and happiness?
 

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DoingKermit
#2 Posted : 9/27/2015 5:26:31 PM

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Wow Amaterasu! That sounds like one hell of an ordeal. How much Rue and DMT did you take? DMT is definitely not something to mess around with and weighing out the dose can make all the difference.

I'm glad you are feeling like you are recovering from it all. Sometimes it is better not to look into some of the crazier experiences too deeply. It is occasionally just that... a crazy experience.

Look after yourself.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/27/2015 7:21:49 PM

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hi, i had quite a similar experience. they, too, told me that there is no god and put me into a perfect prison. why? because we were so selfish. cost me some lifetime, but i got some answers for you:

1. those suckers exist and they use as a source of energy. they tricked us into these bodies and thrive on our negative energy.

2. they are masters of illuison but, if you could see their real form, they are just pitiful helpless creatures.

3. we are going to defeat them one day because they can not hold us captive much longer. many people start to understand the illusion they are creating in the 3d and the 4d (hyperspace) world.

4. what can you do? make love the center of your life. they really hate that Smile

5. do not fall for their tricks, it might be possible that they try to scare you in your dreams, just send love and compassion towards them, that makes them vanish.

please, can you go into detail as much as possible? every bit of information is valuable and might help get their asses sooner.

much love,
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#4 Posted : 9/28/2015 2:28:42 AM
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DoingKermit wrote:
That sounds like one hell of an ordeal. How much Rue and DMT did you take? DMT is definitely not something to mess around with and weighing out the dose can make all the difference.
It was about two Syrian rue seeds and about 30mg DMT AFAIK.
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Definitely.

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1. those suckers exist and they use as a source of energy. they tricked us into these bodies and thrive on our negative energy.
2. they are masters of illuison but, if you could see their real form, they are just pitiful helpless creatures.
Helpless creatures? Are you on about aliens?
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4. what can you do? make love the center of your life. they really hate that
Guess I'd better do what I enjoy doing more Smile
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5. do not fall for their tricks, it might be possible that they try to scare you in your dreams, just send love and compassion towards them, that makes them vanish.
Yes I've seen them in dreams too. Love and compassion? I just wake up and go into mantra mode.

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please, can you go into detail as much as possible? every bit of information is valuable and might help get their asses sooner.
What details do you want to know more about?
 
332211
#5 Posted : 9/28/2015 6:44:58 AM

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hmmm, what they truly are is hard to say, as they exist in hyperspace, where you met them, and our knowledge about that is limited. they seem to be energy forms with immense shapeshifting abilities, so they could appear to be "alien".

the details that interest me are what exactly happened to you that frightened you so much. consider it all lies because your fear just adds to their goals. they are basically junkies thrieving on your negative emotions so they will do *anything* to put and keep you in that state. you empower them.

so, please, remember the experience and tell me all of the lies, they told you.

much love,
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Amaterasu
#6 Posted : 9/28/2015 9:14:46 AM
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332211 Interesting. I understand now.

The details -
1) A sense of losing yourself to the unreality beyond reality. A despondent feeling of is any of my life real? Is anything real? Are my memories real? Do I even exist? Does anything have any value or meaning whatsoever? Is there a God? Am I a God? Is this universe a manifestation of my imagination or am I a manifestation of God's imagination? This was the most mind fucking aspect of the trip. By that point my ego gave up and I pretty much let gone into the dmt ride. I felt like I had been raped and forced to view this despite my protests.

2) Sheer terror and fear of losing yourself in this reality, trapped and stuck in my mate's room for all eternity. There was also a fear of knives and of being physically bound up against him. I saw him as an extremely evil person. There was absolutely nothing good about him.

3) A strange feeling of being like a woman trapped and unable to escape or move on the bed.

4) A bad smell lingering in the air when I blacked out and came to. It smelt like burning incense at the same time like a rotten carcass. I recognise it later as the smell your body gives off when you are in flight or fight mode.
 
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#7 Posted : 9/29/2015 12:12:26 AM

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Ameratsu wrote:
4) A bad smell lingering in the air when I blacked out and came to. It smelt like burning incense at the same time like a rotten carcass. I recognise it later as the smell your body gives off when you are in flight or fight mode.

My best trips have always occurred after ample preparation of the space with incense smudging. Frankincense and myrrh are good but Palo Santo is the best, IME. Burning Syrian rue is said to protect against negative energies and I would be inclined to agree.

Maybe the smell of your (or your friend's) (mis)apprehension started off a negative feedback reaction? Just a thought.




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― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
 
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Ameratsu, your trip report has somewhat disturbed me.
I have had many dark, confusing, frightening and downright dismantling trips, also I have read about quite a few but it sounds your trip was by far one of the most frightening I have ever read.
I really hope you are able to ground yourself after your ordeal, and you are most definitely in good hands here at the nexus. Perhaps drop in the chat sometime, talking about your experience may help you rationalise.

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I am not sure whether or not I will use DMT again.

I once said this to myself after attempting to launch by vaping 100mg (No i don't recommend anyone actually tries this), my trip was extremely chaotic (with a lack of vocabulary to accurately describe it) and felt like it lasted an eternity.
When I returned, I was shell shocked. I told myself I would never use DMT again. 12 months later I hear my calling again, and curiosity is leading me back down the rabbit hole.
 
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That sounds like one hell of an ordeal. How much Rue and DMT did you take? DMT is definitely not something to mess around with and weighing out the dose can make all the difference.
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It was about two Syrian rue seeds and about 30mg DMT AFAIK.

You mean 2g of Syrian rue seeds, right?
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