Hello all this is all very knew to me, my 1st. forum and my typing is the 2 finger hunt and peck sort so please forgive any breach in etiquette. But having read here for a while I've found you to be a sincere and reverent lot with a willingness to help, I'm hoping for some insight or advice on what I can do to further my experience
My son has been trying to help me cross the veil. My 1st. try I was so blown away by being tossed in the middle of a sentient neon collidescope of every color that my 1st. tought was holy s..t! I wasn't prepared for this and remembering old acid trips thought "I don't have the stamina for hours of this." Then I remembered it was only going to be 5 or 10 min. and I relaxed. Then I heard the music. What can I say about the music? Is that the songs of the stars?.. of the soul?...I listened in awe and yearning and watched in fascination and as it started to fade felt a profound sense of loss "I'm not going to go." and even the memory of the music was slipping away.
My 2nd. try I somehow didn't get enough and found the fractal world slightly sinister and the music was so faint I could barely hear. I floated off backward and to the left and felt the left coner of my head and half my eye break thru a ?viel?... into a bright blue place and there got stuck, literally. I was tethered to my body. The 1st. time I was completly bodiless, this time I couldn't disconnect and then it started to fade.
My 3rd. time I tried real hard to get enough and there I was in collidescope land, the music was not as powerfull as the 1st. time, but this was probably the most relaxed I'd been. Agin I started floating backwards and to the left, and again I found a ? wall ? with pale blue on one side and fractals on the other, again I went partially thru, although more of me this time, and got stuck I can't really see anything on the blue side but I'm aware things are there. My thoughts were "I'm not going to get to go." "Why can't I go?"
Has anyone experienced something like this? And does anyone have any thoughts or advice to share?

She's walking thru the clouds
With a circus mind runnin round
Butterflys and zebras and moonbeams
and fairytales
All she ever talks about is ridin with the wind

hi there, i would say just take your time with the spice, dont chase a break through. enjoy what its got to teach you for a while,and when its time for you to break through... you will, and boy you,ll know it hehe.happy journeying.

peace

Hi Mom

Congrats on your first forum post EVER!

We have already talked in person about breaking through at great length, so I don't really have much to add here.
I think the problem may be that I have just over explained it to you. I keep telling you to try "this" and try "that", but really I just breakthrough so easily cause I just "don't" think about it too much.

Next time I will have you just relax more and think less... Just let it happen.

try a micro dose at first..then a few minutes later have them go for it...the micro dose will help relax them..and also unlock the door a bit

Thanks for the responses everyone, can't wait to try again. after the last time it's hard to remember why I had any fear. was that the veil I saw do you think?

What you describe sounds so much like Salvia.

question, i thought that you only had a minute to get it all in. can you smoke some...wait.. and then smoke some more?

One of my best experiences was when I did it like this. It sort of eased me into it and I remembered more than ever.