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I know salt makes the solution more polar when basifying but when acid cooking is there any issue with extracting into salt-water? I don't want the nasty metals etc from tap water carrying over.
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Just spend a dollar on some distilled or spring water and/or visit a spring. iam not sure if it would be an issue, but sea water has lots of metals also. There's an alchemical sea water extract called ORMUS i posted about here. *ALL WAYS WITH LOVE
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I wonder how density and salt content plays apart in moving the alkaloids in to the solution? Anyone? Quote: Freshwater has a density of 1,000 kg/m3.
Seawater (saltwater) is usually some 3.5 percent heavier than fresh water, therefore the density of seawater is 1,035 kg/m3 because the dissolved salts add mass without contributing significantly to the volume. every litre of seawater has approximately 35 grams (1.2 oz) of dissolved salts.
Composition:
Nonmetals Per cent
Chlorine 55.0
Sulfates (SO4) 8.0
Bromine 0.2
Carbonates(CO3) 0.2
Metals
Sodium 30.0
Magnesium 4.0
Calcium 1.2
Potassium 1.0
Other* 0.3
Total 100.0
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dysfunctional word machine
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The salts in seawater will make the dmt less soluble during the acid cook, I think. Maybe the effect is not very large, especially while the solution is still hot. But consider how salt is used to force harmala HCl out of solution, it's more or less the same principle.
It is best to add the salt after the acidified cooking, filtering and reduction of the solution is finished.
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distilled water and you are safe :-) also for the extraction in general it's better to use it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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pitubo wrote:The salts in seawater will make the dmt less soluble during the acid cook, I think. Maybe the effect is not very large, especially while the solution is still hot. But consider how salt is used to force harmala HCl out of solution, it's more or less the same principle.
It is best to add the salt after the acidified cooking, filtering and reduction of the solution is finished. Thanks for replying also about harmala salts as that cleared things up. I thought that there would be so much free space in which the spice could migrate just like how matter is 99% pure spice and it could fit in to the water just like something fitting in between matter. Do you think though that there would be a noticible difference in yields?
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dysfunctional word machine
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sleepermustawaken wrote:Do you think though that there would be a noticible difference in yields? That really depends on a lot of variables. Using distilled water or reasonably clean tap water keeps things simple and along the lines of tried and true procedures as they are described in the wiki.
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