I have encountered a confounding aspect of visual perception during an experience that has left my perception of reality alternate to my psych-virginity days. I'll articulate the experience briefly.

I was attending a music festival in which during I ingested two grams of fungi and was watching the finale of the festival at it's largest stage. I was observing deadmau5 along with the visual show consisting of projector screens with videos playing and "laser" beams. There was a multitude of flags and various other heightened props that were in the foreground in relation to the stage and the projector screens. So from this perspective I was viewing silhouettes of active and intense "black" surface areas dancing about in contrast to vividly bright digital lights. I no longer was viewing black as a conventional color but actually voids in space, voids of light... my visual moment contained holes. Fascinating.

As I pass through every day life currently I am able to perceive "black" in this abstract perspective. It occurs prominently with deep blacks contrasting bright tones of colors such as reds and whites. Some weak black covered material items such as a chair isn't as obvious of course.

I am intrigued if anyone else has witnessed this? Possibly describe how you came about this perspective. Has anyone observed this deep and eloquent perspective without psychedelic use previously?

I do not perceive colors differently, they are just amplified, but i needs me a good dose of dmt to do that.

I actully had a trip with dmt to where right after i set my pipe down (glass) on my table (witch is also glass) i saw colors echo through each other as i pulled my hand from the pipe i set down as the glass on glass sounded. Those colors turned to letters to which i cant remember for the life of me but i can remember it was beautiful! There is alot to perception as audio and visual, thats probably why some can hear colors, or see sounds visa versa. Its very interesting indeed my friend!

Best wishes!

--dls--

It sounds like what you are describing is enhanced sensitivity to colorful light afterimages which can become more prominent in consciousness after psychedelic use. I think that you notice black as containing these colors is indicative of my estimation because black forms an ideal backdrop for the colors to stand out against. This is why I find that the closed eyed version of hyperspace tends to be more colorful and vibrant than the same geometries projected in an open-eyed space.

After a couple years of somewhat heavy MDMA use along with a plethora of psychedelics I began to percieve black objects in the corners of my vision as flashing luminescent blue. It would usually happen with electrical cords as they are often tucked in to corners nearly out of sight.

Hi, i have had a change in perception in a broader sense before; without the use of psychedelics (although i wasn't psychedelically naive either). It happened in the form of depersonalization and detachment from "reality" or being able to tell the difference between the amazing and awe inspiring "experience" i was going through and the real world. i don't fully remember everything but man it was one heck of an experience i'm not too excited to share with others out of fear that i'll sound crazy.

I didn't use any drugs or anything to inspire, corrolate to, or causethe changes in perception but it sort of just happened. I do want to mention that i used cannabis throughout the 3-6 months all this transpired but i don't think it was the root cause. Alot of it was a profound and sometimes mystical experience and other times because i just couldn't "turn it off" it would in some ways be a disorder. And as far as this "sober experience" goes it included both very difficult experiences (at one time i was on the couch uncontrollably crying, at another i was completely empty and apathetic as the wind and nature around me seemed to be saying something so profound to me that i just stood and shuttered and awe'd in pure emotion; speechlessly) and incredible mystical experiences that involved some of the most deepest thoughts on the meaning of life (sometimes delusional or unsensical). These "positive experiences" were alot like "mania" or the "high's" (and sometimes it felt like i was constantly high or tripping) and these "negative experiences" were like the "depression's" or "lows". However the biggest issue was communicating what i went through; it was commonly recognized as depression and a common answer was antidepressants when i was more accurately going through depersonalization.

With this said, when a change in perception does occur lets hope that it doesn't last longer than need be and lets be wary of depersonalization (which does go away with time, derealization on the other hand can be permanent, sadly).

Also DMT/NMT (acacia confusa extract) immediately changes my perceptions of temperature, light, touch, motion/position of my body in space, smell (especially smell! it's crazy how my sense of smell can morph! hard to describe, sadly. It's quite the most incredible perceptual experience!) and various other features of the glorious seratonin molecule/receptors. However these immediate changes are short lived, like the tryptamines that cause them.

As far as LSA goes the change is actually more long term but far less profound and doesn't nearly include the changes in perception that tryptamines have. However i notice that LSA has a more internal and cognitive effect.

I have a strange ability, about once or twice a day to be able to mentally simulate the first stages of a psychedelic comeup. It happens when I find myself sitting alone, or in a room full of people, but by myself, just thinking. A few times it has been intense enough to startle me. The scene will sort of flatten out and shift towards an effect like animation.

One interesting trigger of this is if I find my self becoming seriously infatuated with a woman. It happened first about 20 years ago when I was on a first date with a young lady. Whatever brain chemistry magic that happens when you realize you really are starting to be attracted to someone hit my brain stem and I began to see her face shift and morph, like the first wave of an LSD dose. I thought I was about to have a real live Urban Legend Type Flashback.

I've always kinda figured this phenomenon is common among psychedelic users. Is that correct?

We may be conditioned to seeing the world a certain way. It appears as a set 2dimensional surfaces but if you had the extra understanding you would see how these surfaces interact in higher dimensional space. Obviously we are trained to see the world and it's surfaces in only one way but with special attention + DMT I begin to see diffrently.

This may be bunk as someoneonthisforumsuggested we only creatively fill in the data with our minds. Either way there is a set of learned pattern recognition software operating in the visual/pareital cortex that inhibits new mechanisms of interperation.

I had similar thing where I defocus my eyes and look at the picture as a whole, I can stare in to something and it's contast change to make it look like something entirely different.

For example...



So here the background is what is being used as a solid. It is as it were inverted so that the background appears as if it is the person and person the background. Then you look at this picture:



Invert it and try and treat the black as if it was nothing/void and you will be left with the white background as the living entity that moves while the ant's don't exist.. ants are the shadow/void.

Personally, I find that even just after one 30mg dose I sometimes see the subtle dmt-candyland perceptions weeks after the dose but just every now and again when I stare in to the forms of sight I see, never in an uncomfortable way yet but I imagine if I took larger doses maybe the flashbacks could be annoying or intolerable in someway. Subtle candyland appears as if the tones are very uniform and colors are more in contrast with one another and stand out more, it looks cartoonish basicly but in a more gentle, creative and passive way than say micky mouse or the simpsons.

I found that it is the MAOI that gives the lingering flashes... Before switching from vaporizing to oral MAOI aya/pharma I never got subtle candyland flashbacks.

P.S.

How did that concert look, can u find a video? lik dis?

https://www.youtube.com/...h?v=fN1Gw8PHkAI#t=04m29s
https://www.youtube.com/...?v=Zjs24FUrprgI#t=03m35s

Keep in mind too that some cultures see things differently (and really, everyone does. That shade of black is your own! no one else could see it exactly as you do). I know that say for example if a modernized person saw this >--------<

They would be able to recognize it. But some tribal people's won't be able to see that image the same way but if you took a 3D variation they could recognize it better (also it's supposed to be an optical illusion. I'd share a pic of the actual image if i could but sadly i don't have one available on my computer. I'll consult the book i read about this from and come back and edit this but for now i think you get the idea, i hope).

Sleepermustawaken and your points spin together well, the depersonalization/deconditioning aspect of one's personal norm of perception. I'll also toss in color-blind people, as their visual reality is very alternate to our own.

Also, to go along with the ant picture (which genuinely related to my articulation) next time you folks are outside and can view a vast accumulation of clouds parted from one another try to swap out the identity of "cloud" with the sky backdrop. In other words, pretend the clouds are the sky and the sky is the clouds. It works well with certain color shades of the sky/clouds, and it takes slight effort. If the contrast is fairly eloquent it'll click and then "a-hah!" you'll see it. I guess I would say I've been able to switch this perspective while viewing the sky before my psychedelic days. So basically we have a depersonalization from the concept of the content being viewed and then a perspective shift of the phenomenon of color (light) itself.

This is the set I attended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N22Ccz-5V8
I was around two hundred feet from the stage and then retreated out of the bowl itself onto a hill which allowed me to see a larger and multifaceted perspective. By the way you'll know this guy is a magician if you ever see him live... I was hundreds of yards away and was being hit intensely by certain acoustical and/or bass frequencies (he comprehends how to sculpt sound elegantly).