Hello Nexians,

I am not sure if this has been discussed much or ever but I was unable to find any concrete answers. Please re-direct me if I have just failed at looking.

The general point of this thread is to get a discussion going on where in the natural world we can find and gather DMT containing plants. I know there are dozens from all over the world and a general region for each species is somewhat established. However, after looking into and trying to find Phalaris Arundinacea, I found it incredibly difficult since the "region" was the entire U.S. with the exception of three or four states (http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=phar3). Although i spent a few hours in five states in seemingly good areas, I was unable to find any.

Hopefully with this thread I, along with everyone else, can get information and research to where these plants are native and obtain them in the seemingly easiest and safest method.

With the vastness of the source plant world it would seem unwise at first to try and cover all of this at once. Hopefully, each person with a specific knowledge of an individual plant can add a bit at a time and eventually a full list will be made. Perhaps dividing the list into continents or even countries would make the most sense. I would love to hear others opinions on this and get information down as soon as possible. Perhaps we can start with the Phalaris grass and other U.S. natives?

P.S. I know there are dozens of lists with very general information on this (i.e. continent, region) but i am hoping to go deeper.

Hopefully others are as interested in this as I am!

Phalaris Arundinacea grows mostly along waterways, pretty well everywhere in the world. Just head to the nearest lake, stream, canal, river, etc and you are almost guaranteed to find a stand of this growing near the phragmites australis and arundo donax.

However, none of these plants are clean sources of DMT, they contain multiple alkaloids, many of which are under-researched, and some of which can be dangerous (bufotenidine for example). I applaud your desire to seek out wild sources, but please be careful and do your research before venturing out and ingesting random plant extracts.

Good topic, good timing. I have recently been thinking about this also.

What would a good, clean natural source of DMT be? What should we be aiming for, that is environmentally sustainable?

Grow your own

Acacia seeds are readily available, Phalaris brachystachys looks very promising. Desmanthus has been reported to be a reasonable option. Psychotria viridis and nexus clones are available. Don't forget the mushrooms, they are remarkably easy to grow and every bit as powerful a medicine as the spice.

As far as working with the wild sources, the list of options is rather extensive. Find the ones relevant to your location, research them thoroughly, carefully learn the ways of their medicine, and most importantly, document and report your results!

It seem this may be more reasonable outside of the United States. Not a huge variety of source plants. It appears my attention will shift to the cultivation of these plants. Regardless,



Research is key!

Desmanthus Illinois grows very abundantly in the wild's around here. So does Mullein (reported as a great base for making changa). Just don't misidentify a Wild Carrot (D. Illinois) for Hemlock. They look very similar but there are keys to separate them from each other.

Acacia Acuminata is #1 like shmidyyangermangensen! Can contain up to 2% DMT in the phyloids and i mean crap man... do you know how sustainable that is?! lols. But seriously, it's much better to harvest phyloids than root/trunk bark. 500 mg of phyloids probably won't stress or kill a plant as much as 500 mg of root/trunk bark.

i'd be interested in that D. Illinois contains a hefty amount of NMT (i think it's alkaloid content can be on average 80% NMT and 20% DMT). I'd use it as an addition in oral DMT brews that don't contain very much NMT (if you're a big fan of NMT, i loved Acacia Confusa (average of half and half of DMT and NMT) so i think it'd be great to have a primarily NMT containing extract or brew just to test the differences between NMT and DMT).

I think that you can properly extract the good stuff from Phalaris A. but i haven't read into it very much. There's also the possability that there's many plants that contain interesting alkaloids that may have be unknown to us as well. I think there was mentioning of the TLC kits being able to test if a plant source has any alkaloids in them so it'd be great to get one from Bunk Police and look into new discoveries of tryptamine sources.

I'd join ShareTheSeeds or look at either the Nexus's or STS's seed/viable plant suppliers if you want to go down the route of cultivation.

Good luck! and happy pickings!