2nd post at 7th page:
I did a water extraction by simmering approximate 10 grams dry Parmelia conspersa. Usnic acid is not soluble in water, at least at 25°C. The same is true for many of the other substances - the so-called 'lichen acids' are seen upon as not soluble in water. Ref:
http://journals.cambridg...e=online&aid=729140 (Can anyone get the full article?)
I let the resulting brown liquid evaporate onto some mullein. I used a bit much mullein, so I had to take two large fillings in my pipe, but indeed this is active! Not mindblowing, but good effects. The terrible taste of the lichen (or perhaps the dirt that sometimes follow with) is more or less gone, although the taste is still very sharp, it is much better than plain lichen.
This means that it's likely that the so-called 'lichen acids' aren't responsible for the effects. It could also mean that one or more of them is soluble in water at higher temperatures, as the used temperature was constantly 70-80°C. More tests will need to be done to confirm this.
I want to note that I think it's unfair for sister Mary Jane to say that this is like cannabis. It is damn close, but the cannabinoid magic is missing, and I have no belief that these substances act on cannabinoid receptors. But they do have an interesting effect... Look forward to more tests, in the making is also an extraction of Radula complanata, a close relative to the three known liverworts with actual cannabinoids. Looking forward to try that. Smile
Ginko wrote at 7th page about Radula:
HAH! I took 4 dry grams of the liverwort Radula complanata including roots, and extracted with toluene (didn't have any other non-polar), which when evaporeted yielded a very small amount of black-green resin. I took some mullein and mixed with approximately half of this resin, equaling 2 grams of herb, and smoked it (without any cannabis tolerance).
And you know what, THIS WORKS! With the cannabinoid feel and everything, this is nearly like smoking some GOOD hash! The effect started maybe 30 seconds in, and now writing 5 minutes after, I continue to get higher.
The cannabinoid perrottetinene has not been isolated in this species, but seeing that it has been found in three relatives, it has to be assumed that this substance is responsible for the effects. So people, at least 4 of the 172 Radula species have cannabinoids. Fore more information on the genus, see previous posts.
WOHO! Legal cannabis! YEAH! Very happy
Update: Lasts around 2-3 hours, peak at ~20 minutes.
post at 9 th page:
Smoked some of the same lichen house found that has an uncertain I.D.
Two hits in a small pipe. The effect's were pretty instantaneous, maybe taking place a few seconds after each hit. Taste's pretty nice actually Smile. Sort of a cerebral depressant effect, slightly dreamy. Not quite cannabis-like, but pretty interesting. Nothing overwhelming but I did only take two hits. edit - my eyes get red after 30mg of cannabis has been smoked, and with this there is no evidence of red eyes. Infact they look clearer? Mild visual distortion as if there is a slight layer of fog between some objects of focus.
AND Shulgin wrote in PIHKAL about evernia. And I said about olivetol AND perotterine. I don't know what exactly makes effects. I want to know how to extract it because this those lichens are active for sure.