Alloklais wrote:cubeananda wrote:"Om Mani Padme Hum"
Also pranayama and cessation of breath I have found to be the ultimate, direct path to all power of trance states and your Self. A branch of yoga known as kumbakha pranayama.
Hi Cubeananda,
So cool, thank you for sharing this. Do you know if the states attained through kumbakha pranayama or similar might relate to Grof's Holotropic breath work?
Also AO Spare used breath work to attain gnosis / trance in his magick.
More than 20 years ago I tried a re-birthing session - which used deep, intense and directed breathing. Unfortunately the session got interrupted just before breaking fully into the next frame / shift in consciousness. A couple weeks ago I was thinking about this, as Grof was just here doing a Holotropic breath workshop.
Is the kumbakha a regular part of a daily practice for you?
Quote: ..... mantravidhya the goal is to attain mantra-caitanya, a state which is quite easy to achieve when on ayahuasca or mushrooms, but sober or just under the influence of cannabis, mantra-caitanya is an uphill climb(the merging of the mantra with the consciousness, the inherent meaning of the syllables become clear and manifest in their full significance)
Of course the meaning is food for contemplation, but during phases when (especially periods of time after mantra-caitanya which serves as the truth-standard for its invocation) I practice the tantric method of simply absorbing myself in the sound and sinking deep into the resonance and overtones. It is during that period of the sounds merging with consciousness that spontaneous mantra-caitanya (where the meaning itself merges) will happen, a state which shouldn't fail to convince you of your immense power as a human-being.
Wow, that sounds amazing. I know intellectually about mantra work, I've done a little bit of chant work, but nothing so focused or immersive to bring about a trance.
Through mantravidhya can you describe any of the gifts you brought back or changes you made in your day-to-day life after attaining mantra-caitanya? Or did some synchronicity present itself to you after?
Yeah I totally think the holoctropic breath work has a lot of parallels tonkimbakhana prana yoga, then difference in titles denotes mostly the contextual history behind the practice, as Shiva is patron of yogis, a yoga is generally devotional in nature. Also it is a yoga which includes use of plant teachers and tobacco is also incorporated. The height of the yoga is a state where breathing does not need to occur for some amount of time, and when the heart beat is under control and breathing picks back , trance can be established and one builds back up slowly to a state of kumbakha again.
As far as mantra caitanya, yes the states are quite mind blowing, I recently went to a local gayatri temple, and participated in mantravidhya there, and I was just completely filled with the most serene bliss full states. I did so using mahamantrunjay mantra.
Also om nama shivaya is quite powerful, especially coupled with yoga.
It does seem to be a skill to integrate high energy states into a sustained 'trance' so that itself is a yoga.