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#1 Posted : 8/23/2015 11:49:15 PM

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can one have lucid (ie controlled) dmt trips like you can control dreams in lucid state.
 

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#2 Posted : 8/24/2015 12:07:11 AM

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Based on my experiences and explorations, I believe it is possible to experience any perception available while lucid dreaming via connection to the Collective Unconscious. However, this would probably take years of practice in cultivating the Dream/Energy body through advanced Lucid Dreaming, Astral Projection, meditation, and other advanced practices such as Shamanism, Sorcery, Qabalist Pathworking, Qigong, Dream Yoga, etc.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/24/2015 7:58:11 PM

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SpartanII wrote:
Based on my experiences and explorations, I believe it is possible to experience any perception available while lucid dreaming via connection to the Collective Unconscious.


I haven't completely understand what you mean saying "connection to the Collective Unconscious".
In my own experience lucid dreaming is a sort of blend between conscious and unconscious being.

Have you ever achieved the connection? Do you do something specific to get fully into the Collective Unconscious? Except the methods you have mentioned (meditation, Dream Yoga, etc...), is there maybe a set of actions to perform while lucid?
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#4 Posted : 8/24/2015 8:43:50 PM

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If you want to go flying all about as you wish in hyperspace, then I don't think that's really possible (although flying along on a guided course would be different). Hyperspace can be modified by your thoughts, but I think that trying to maintain control is a step in the wrong direction. There may be specific scenarios where intervention may be required, but for the most part, it's like a movie happening to you.
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#5 Posted : 8/24/2015 9:01:28 PM

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Global wrote:
If you want to go flying all about as you wish in hyperspace, then I don't think that's really possible (although flying along on a guided course would be different). Hyperspace can be modified by your thoughts, but I think that trying to maintain control is a step in the wrong direction. There may be specific scenarios where intervention may be required, but for the most part, it's like a movie happening to you.


This is slightly off topic but the "maintaining control" problem is something my lady struggles with (and I do too sometimes but not purposely). She has not had a full on breakthrough yet and tells me repeatedly that she has a fear of completely letting go and that she wants to be in the driver's seat during the experience. I tell her that if she continues her experiments with DMT it (a true breakthrough) is bound to happen. But I give her lower doses per her request. When she is ready, she will tell me. Until then I would never force anything upon someone who wishes to remain in one piece and in this reality...for now. Very happy

Back on topic, I have given up trying to control any of my experiences to an extent. Whatever happens, happens is my mantra. I'll try to decipher and understand it all in good time. Trying to control the trip seems counterproductive, as Global pointed out. Why try to control something that is beyond our control? DMT will show you what you need to know. It rarely shows you what you want or think you need to know!

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#6 Posted : 8/24/2015 10:13:58 PM
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The need for control is irrational and the basis of all anxiety. Let go and accept. There's nothing there that will hurt you unless you assign too much to it.
 
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ime, relinquishing control over the experience has given me the most control
 
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#8 Posted : 8/25/2015 1:37:30 AM

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Complexity wrote:
SpartanII wrote:
Based on my experiences and explorations, I believe it is possible to experience any perception available while lucid dreaming via connection to the Collective Unconscious.


I haven't completely understand what you mean saying "connection to the Collective Unconscious".


Are you familiar with Carl Jung's "collective unconscious"?

Similar ideas would be Zero-point field, quantum field, Holographic matrix, David Bohm's Implicate order, Source, Akashic Records, Hyperspace, etc.

If dreams connect us to this universal wellspring of information, then we are all connected whenever we dream. Lucid dreaming would give us conscious access to this information, allowing us to experience any perception available, past, present, and future, within the Collective Unconscious of mankind.

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Have you ever achieved the connection? Do you do something specific to get fully into the Collective Unconscious? Except the methods you have mentioned (meditation, Dream Yoga, etc...), is there maybe a set of actions to perform while lucid?


I believe I have achieved this connection whenever I have witnessed universal symbolism/imagery or have experienced a new perception, whatever Reality I find myself in.

As the methods I have mentioned are all just different advanced perceptual applications and potentiators of lucid dreaming, each would have their own set of actions to utilize the connection.
 
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#9 Posted : 8/25/2015 7:53:43 PM

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SpartanII wrote:
Complexity wrote:
SpartanII wrote:
Based on my experiences and explorations, I believe it is possible to experience any perception available while lucid dreaming via connection to the Collective Unconscious.


I haven't completely understand what you mean saying "connection to the Collective Unconscious".


Are you familiar with Carl Jung's "collective unconscious"?



Yes, I'm. I really love jungian perspective indeed Pleased
I'm also on a deep meeting with my Anima in my dreams just in this period.
My phrase was just a preamble to the other questions, but I must have formulated in a misunderstoodable way.

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Have you ever achieved the connection? Do you do something specific to get fully into the Collective Unconscious? Except the methods you have mentioned (meditation, Dream Yoga, etc...), is there maybe a set of actions to perform while lucid?


I believe I have achieved this connection whenever I have witnessed universal symbolism/imagery or have experienced a new perception, whatever Reality I find myself in.

As the methods I have mentioned are all just different advanced perceptual applications and potentiators of lucid dreaming, each would have their own set of actions to utilize the connection.


Ok, clear. Thanks Thumbs up
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#10 Posted : 8/27/2015 7:56:41 PM
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I have only had lucid experiences, except once,

If it makes any sense, it seems that letting go is the energy needed to continue, to the "next", coherently.

Maybe not planning, but just experiencing, not intending to tell anyone, but being immersed completely.

Maybe being serious, being serious about the experience, maybe sincere, sincerity leading to coherence.

I once heard a musician or a composer say that Japanese audiences are much less likely to sneeze or yawn during a show than western audiences. Sneezes are largely believed to be involuntary. I do not know about yawns.
 
 
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