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#1 Posted : 12/21/2014 12:54:57 PM

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ive been searching for answers using spice for nearly 3 yrs now.i have traveled over 30 times.when I use I am immediately met by beings everytime.these beings stop my heart and lay me down.
at first they would dazzle me with the most amazing feeling and sight.all to keep me from seeing that they were doing scans or tests on me.they would go through my mind in search of something.
a very mesmorizing skull, glowing with shapes, symbols and color would start to circle me when I ignored the magic they tried to contain me with.i would lock on to this skull in amazement.it was so powerful.u can sense the meaning and power within it.
a tube would come out of its mouth and would slowly come towards my mouth.i would get well scared and not let it in.
after denying it a few times I told myself next time I would let it.when we met they sat me in a chair, I told them I was taking it this time.a pedestal or something was brought to the side of me where the skull was sitting on top.glowing and everything in it constantly moving like colorful snakes and patterns.
I was mezmorized, during this they were running some kind of scan on my head.the tube came out and I opened my mouth.immediately I was transported on to a ufo.where there were greys standing around me.they ran me through many test.my body, my mind.they explained who they were and where they were from.of course they wouldn't let me remember that.
they made me feel amazing as well.unexplainable the bliss I felt.i was put in many different chairs and tables.i watched them go through my entire life like it was recorded.they would stop at certain parts and ask me about what we were seeing.
I begged them to take me with them.when they were done they put me in portal and I was beamed back to my room with nothing more than the feeling of the hot white lights on my forehead from the portal and fading memories of what I just seen.
this would happen for a few trips.everyonre feeling like dejavu.
these brings would give me sight and understanding.they healed me of my migranes which I have suffered my whole life.they healed my troubked mind.
I am an ex drug addict,ex drug dealer/bully.ive done horrible shit.ive robbed banks/home invasions, done yrs in the pen.now im the nicest person around.will help anybody for nothing.this change is because of them.
I would start talking to people in my city some I know and some I met.and I would bring these beings to them.they healed many minds to some I know and some strangers who were intrigued by my stories, never even hearing of spice.i saw a lady stomach slice open in front of me and her husband, black liquid pouring out with an awful smell.this is where she lost a child I was told and was eating her up in mind for yrs.
peron after person.what is going on who are these beings.why do they like me so much?its as if they would use me to bring them people.when my head was against the person we were helping they would go through me and I would go through this persons entire life digging at all the horrors and troubles they had.they would relive it like it was just happening.one lady being molested.she was screaming while I had to watch this replay.wtf is going on.are these beings good or bad.the experience was too heavy.i did not want to offend them so I would not ask or even think if they were bad.they have done a lot for me.i have good understanding of life.and the after.
the skull would appear first in a room sometimes small sometimes grand.i would stair at it and tell it it was my God.this is how I felt, it was that powerful.many trips later the skull was replaced by a dragon.the dragon had the same effect on me.i could sense the tube and would just open my mouth and let it in.i told the dragon I believe it was my God.the power it had on my mind was powerful.then in a flash they were gone.the beings and the dragon.this vibrating sound so incredibly loud with sound of thunder and flasing of lighting started to descend from the heavens.it came down so fast and hard.immediately I knew who it was.He appeared before me with an angel.He asked me to look at Him.i told Him im not worthy enough.i grabbed his leg and begged for forgivness.He was on a throne on top a cloud with fire and lightning.He asked me what I wanted, I replied.He asked another form of me, my soul maybe what he wanted.i then did confession and cried holding His leg while He repeated and, and, and,.......
whoever this angel, a female angel was she knew me, was excited to see me.i did not recognize her.He then grabs my arms and lifts them straight up we start to head toward the heavens.suddenly this white light comes out of my mouth and goes straight up with them I panic the angel smiles at me and tells me I have to finish here first.
I stop using spice that night.the experience was it for me.
now I have sleepless nights, knowing none of this world is real, seeing how blind and dumb people are, knowing there are entities/beings that can make anything happen anytime to anybody.is hard on mind.i look at world different today.i hate it and most ignorant people in it.
I have depression really bad now.i pray every night to go home.i want to take my own life daily, but unsure of consequences if any.this has been going on for about a yr now.
im losing my shit, I have too may whatr feels like demons inside of me.i decide to use again and ask that I have these demons removed.so I pray before I use and tell them what I am asking for before I go as I do everytime.as soon as it hits they come to me.wearing there cloaks, never letting me see there faces.i tell them I want the demons in my life removed, they then vanish.i can feel them and sense them.i can see a the light come out of the bottom of a door oprning and closing in the distance.
suddenly from clear sky, the sky goes black and it rains like ive never seen before as I walk out the bedroom door.my girlfriend knew what was going on and watched as I went outside to stand in the rain.this I was told to do.then as the trip faded away so did the clouds.there was thunder then clear skies.
my conclusion is they are demons of some sort working with satan as this is his earth.sorry to go off topic and all but be careful.do u really want to know? put a lot of thought into this before using.they make you feel good and will show you things but they are not good.they will follow you around and control nearly every evemt in your life.
I have had people tell me they believe I have passed demons on to them.
they are tricking people into thinking they are on the good side.im certain they are not.
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#2 Posted : 12/21/2014 11:58:08 PM

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Those are some interesting experiences you have had.

If my trips into Hyperspace have taught me anything, its that the Human experience is something important, something special to value with all its mysteries. Its about learning to enjoy it for what it is.
It feels like we are never playing with a full deck, sometimes we get given some extra cards, or get the hand stacked in out favor but its always a game of chance.

Ive have the same experience, many times, of something entering me through my mouth. Or trying to enter me. Sometimes I let it, and sometimes I don't. My experiences have not had the same outcome as yours, so I can't say much more than that.

We all have our "demons" to face, on one way or another. Have your confronted your dark past? Made peace, amends and forgave yourself and others for these acts? Have you truly turned to a new path? Clean? Fresh?
Maybe there is a closet or two to be cleaned out?

I think taking the time for integration is key here. Many people jump into deep waters (intense hyperspace lessons) after a rough boat ride (rough life) and think everything will be peachy.
Take time to apply life lessons and process your emotions accordingly.
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#3 Posted : 12/22/2014 2:12:58 AM

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don't believe theres anuthing left to clean.do appreciate your rreply
 
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#4 Posted : 12/22/2014 2:20:19 AM

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This thread dealing with entities has some similarities with your experiences.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=62070

I personally try to stay away from entities in my journeys. I don't trust them, any of them. I try to always go to THE source, the one, The Absolute, the infinite mind, that gives ''life'' to everything. That is the only ONE i want to connect with. The only one that will speak truth, for that is what ''it'' is. Pure truth, formlessness.

I have ''fought'' many a ''demon'' in myself, and continue to, (sometimes all day on a ''good'' day..Shocked Very happy ). I sometimes call them thought forms, desires, emotions. For me, the goal is to remove all the obstacles ((Karmas) desires, thoughts, hate, anger, greed, maliciousness, gluttony...etc)...It is all these things and many more that are keeping us from knowing our creator. At our base, we are pure, but we have become dirty by mixing with this impure world.

Wish you the best lifeafterlife....I. I went through a serious depression for about a 1 and a half years a while ago. Things will work themselves out. It takes time though! So just try to relax, and live life with a pure heart. Congratulations on the transformation you made so far!!!! That's amazing. You've come a long way from before. Be proud, because for most souls, a transition like you've made takes a lot longer. Granted your not done, but keep it up!! Smile
 
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#5 Posted : 12/22/2014 4:50:44 AM

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tks for the time u put in your reply and the link.this is why I wrote it.anything will help.how do you avoid these entities? they come to me instantly.i close my eyes they are there.i leave them open they are there.im afraid to do again after the last one.i feel like I have rid them and im afraid I do again I will be opening door for them.
to avoid all those things u mention are a big key in life and getting closer to the Creator.one day this Egyptian proverb came to me and I studied it for a while till it made sense.'the kingdom of heaven is within you;and whosoever shall know himself shall find it' i then began to lose my ego, forgiving everything and everyone, material stuff, greed............. i worked on making my mind as pure as i can be, that's when i was visited by my God.that proverb is key to the gate.your words are wise and i appreciate thank you Synkromystic
 
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#6 Posted : 12/22/2014 5:53:23 AM

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tks for the time u put in your reply and the link.this is why I wrote it.anything will help.how do you avoid these entities? they come to me instantly.i close my eyes they are there.i leave them open they are there.im afraid to do again after the last one.i feel like I have rid them and im afraid I do again I will be opening door for them.
to avoid all those things u mention are a big key in life and getting closer to the Creator.one day this Egyptian proverb came to me and I studied it for a while till it made sense.'the kingdom of heaven is within you;and whosoever shall know himself shall find it' i then began to lose my ego, forgiving everything and everyone, material stuff, greed............. i worked on making my mind as pure as i can be, that's when i was visited by my God.that proverb is key to the gate.your words are wise and i appreciate thank you Synkromystic


I don't think it's a matter of avoiding entities...I think its about not trusting them, because they can so easily misrepresent themselves to us, or we can misinterpret what their intentions are.

I often feel certain entities are synonymous with thoughts, desires, or emotions....or at least very strongly related...i.e. an entity is there because OF a certain pattern of thinking, wanting, feeling..etc..... My goal, being union with our maker, is my main goal. But I do realize that there are many things that I need to change in order that I can harmonize with ''it''. For like attracts like!

It's really difficult to know exactly why you are being plagued by these entities, but if they are there with you most of the time, i think it's safe to say that it/they are inside of your soul, and I would lean towards the opinion that it is actually just a part of yourself, a part of your unconscious that has begun to manifest itself. But it seems to me that it's trying to teach you something, probably many things. I've had an evil voice/urge/desire in my heart, as long as I can remember, since I was very very young, and probably way before. It's constantly trying to get me to do things that I know are wrong. It is pure hate, pure evil. It's dying, being ripped out by me, but it's a lonnnnng process. It has no control over my actions, but it tries it's best to make me do horrible things. Now it's difficult how to classify what this is..Is it a part of myself that is no longer useful? Or is it something from outside of me that has moved in to live and feed off of me? Either way, I consider it a part of myself, and just ignore what it wants. My attempts at removal have been unsuccessful as of yet, by I know it's time is limited. This thing often times manifests itself in my journey's/visions. Whatever it was/is, it is part of me now and has been for a very long time. It took a lot of dmt use, but dmt made it more pronounced....DMT made me more aware of it's presence, which can be shocking, and startling, but is very important in my soul progression.

I am a firm believer that for those of us that are on the path back towards our creator, we are faced with many many obstacles and tests. The Reward for us is union with the source. But a lot of us (myself included) have so much junk inside of us. I have begun to realize recently how much I have, which is very important to know.

But it is important that we dont open the ''flood gates'' (the unconscious) full force, too quickly, because all our ''junk'' can be a huge burden on us, and can make things worse. It can send us into a depression if we can't handle it. Often times though, it is necessary to go into a depression. (I say one depression PER life is necessary) I have been a person of extremes in the past. I am now finally balancing out. Going into a huge depression helped me greatly though. Things got soooooooo bad that the only way to go on was to make life better. Suicide was not an option, so I had to adapt and change the way I acted and the way I perceived the world. It took a while, but lots of hard work later, I am better. NOW, better than ever....Never Better. Living a difficult, challenge ridden life, but it's what I need. I have found the strength to endure a difficult life!

I have seen this pattern in my life a few times... push things to the extreme so it has to be changed. Long term tobacco and drug habits being another one....

I would recommend taking a break from psychedelics for a while. I took a break for year with out any while I was depressed. It's probably best not to open the floodgates for a while, although this depends entirely on your situation. It can take a while to integrate such life changing situations, but you are the only one who will know for sure when your ready again. It might be worth it to try salvia at some point also, even combine it with dmt. I don't have too much experience with salvia, but wow, what an ego shattering combination that is! They work really well together. Masculine and feminine energies in perfect balance at the correct dosages!

I''m going to cut this post ''short''...lol.....It's easy for me to start rambling
 
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Here is an interesting and highly informative writing about a dragon God...lemme know what you think if you get a chance to read it. The section about the dragon starts almost halfway down the page under the section title. POIMANDRES, THE VISION OF HERMES

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta08.htm

an alternate translation can be found here http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/pym/

 
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#8 Posted : 12/22/2014 6:36:56 AM

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I will read that.ty again for your time.hard to accept but you could be right, why they are with me.gl on your path.

do you believe in the greek Gods? I believe Zeus is my God.I am born under Jupiter King of the Gods.recently my family has completed our lineage.quite interesting to find that all the kings of Troy and the Cimmerians are of my blood.it is traced all the way to Seth and Azura.Adam and Eves children.the cimmerians believe they are descendants of the Annunaki.if you have any links to these I would appreciate as this is all new to me.
 
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#9 Posted : 12/22/2014 9:39:51 PM

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Your welcome!

I don't know much about about the Greek Gods. But it is my understanding that various Greek God's are actually representations of our energy centres (chakras), of which the planets are a macro-cosmic representation also. Same with the Egyptian Gods, and probably many other cultures ''God's'' that I am unaware of.

As far as the Annunakai....Much of what Zecharia Stichen wrote about ''them'' is wrong. His translation was dubious, at best. So looking along those lines I think is a dead end. Look into Atlantis and Lemuria and instead of the Annuakai look into Hermes(was adopted into the greek pantheon).

Here's a link you might find interesting. There's a lot of other information encoded into that writing (that's the way the hermetics did it). If none of it makes any sense now, look into it again in a year or 2 and see what you can get from it then. http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

 
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#10 Posted : 12/23/2014 12:45:55 AM

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"when you get the message, hang up the phone"

Sometimes, with psychedelics, its a good idea to shelf them and relearn how to live. Especially with the grand dmt experiences. Those extra special ones often bring you "out" of your earthling self a little too much which can cause difficulty in remembering how to just be.

I wouldnt worry about the entities and if you are, try to focus on your life. Make a new hobby, exercise, go camping.
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#11 Posted : 12/23/2014 2:51:17 PM
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Your overthinking/attaching too much to 'what is'.

Go live your life, assimilate, enjoy. <3
 
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I was wondering if people you helped out with DMT had similar experiences as you? If they saw the same beings i mean. I don't doubt that certain beings appear to a lot of people and play a role in a universal society, but as in any society i think we still have "free will" as in, we are able to chose who we want to hang out with, who we want to learn from etc

Your story brings stories of Reptilians and Chinese Dragons to my mind. I do believe there is a powerful energy, perhaps represented by planetary energies too etc, that appears in those "symbolic characters", so obviously if they do appear to you there is some sort of affinity between them and you personally. Another person might never meet those but completely different beings represented by another archetypal energy.
You can still chose weather you want to succumb to their power or move on freely.
I think it does help to believe in a source energy that is more than a powerful entity, something you are always connected to no matter what society or influences you chose for your life. It is present in the sunlight, nature, the very things that keep you alive.
You can chose to focus on the things that matter most in life and let those scarier beings be by not visiting them.

Also i think everything between total light and total darkness has a polarity to it, 2 sides of the coin so to say. All things in existence might be good and bad, depending on how you look at them.
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#13 Posted : 8/23/2015 4:32:04 AM

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yes from what they remembered there were beings helping them out.the people I have helpled bby bringing these beings too seem to forget almost immediately any visuals of the ones helping them.my gf at the time was visited by these same beings as well they would visit her frequently when she meditated.thanks for your reply and input.srry so late in response.safe travels
 
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My conclusion is they are demons of some sort working with satan as this is his earth.


If you make that assumption a part of your worldview, you might have a lot of fear to stomach whenever you blast into hyperspace.

These entities where stuck to you because they could use you as a vessel for healing. You allowed them to do so and they did. They helped you in the first place. You said they did helped others. Doesn't sound particular evil to me. They might be not very pleasent and entertaining to the vessel, but they got a job to do. I suspect that part of your healing was connected to you helping/healing others.

While i was reading your experiences i saw many similarities to the ways indigeous curanderos work with spirits. They invite them with their singing (they know which one to call) then the entity might take possession of the curandero and he sings like never before. The process of healing is an group effort. Everyone is part of it, the curandero, the patient, the spirit. What they where doing in your case most likely was exposing trauma.

Isn't it very ironic that you, the former bad guy turned good, used your predator instinct to single out former victims to actually help them. Or did you not? What was the outcome in most cases?
Ask yourself. Deamons don't run around helping people.

Do you have any base for your assumption that these entities are evil EXCEPT christian/jewish/islam religeous propaganda?
I would recommend to examine your worldview closely and learn some more about how people work with spirits since milennia, ignoring the fear mongering parts of it.

From my limited perspective, you did very well. Thumbs up
Now you just have to take care of yourself and get rid of that damn depression.



 
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Something else I think worth mentioning is your assumption that the skull, dragon, and Zeus (at different times) were/are your god.

You don't need to have a specific god to attach to. You're creating that role out of a need/desire for a higher power to align your self with. And I think that's a normal desire as a human....but if you're willing to hand over your allegiance to different things/entities/thought forms (however you choose to label these things), that means you're willing to give up your power that easily - to something that's obviously not 'your god', whatever that means. If you can jump from thinking the skull was your god to thinking Zeus is your god, who's to say that Zeus is any more your god (again, whatever that means) than the skull? Or that the next thing is any more your god than Zeus? You're throwing that label and assumption around willy nilly, which is saying that you're feeling a strong, almost desperate desire for a parental/godly figure to guide you and help you. Again, a normal desire I think.....but we can get to a point when we've gotten the help we need and it's time to fly on our own - be our own god - leave the nest....and if we don't, things start to go sour.

Maybe you were having experiences with real beings who were helping you. I couldn't say for sure. But maybe things got a little carried away.

Imagine being a parent and helping a child get to a point where they were ready to go out on their own and live life themselves, after all you'd done for them - and then they just wanted to stick around and assign you a godlike title - ultimate power over them - when you as the parent didn't want that. You wanted to raise a being who could be their own person and run their own life - you gave them what they needed but then they became too attached. Things would obviously start to go downhill and you'd have to push the child out of the nest.

As anrchy said, "When you get the message hang up the phone." You got what you needed. Move on, and move on in a way that empowers yourself - not an external source of perceived power.
 
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anrchy wrote:
"when you get the message, hang up the phone"

Sometimes, with psychedelics, its a good idea to shelf them and relearn how to live. Especially with the grand dmt experiences. Those extra special ones often bring you "out" of your earthling self a little too much which can cause difficulty in remembering how to just be.

I wouldnt worry about the entities and if you are, try to focus on your life. Make a new hobby, exercise, go camping.



This seems like some wonderful advice. Psychedelics and I would add computers among other things (we can discuss those another time) are wonderful, powerful tools. Some new, some old. But they need to be used remembering the advice above. I might add rest, hydration and good healthy food.
 
 
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