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cinderblock
#1 Posted : 8/9/2015 8:10:06 AM
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This is from Q21Q21's tek. He says to keep the naphtha in the freezer until you're "satisfied." From what I understand based off these teks, it appears you'll still have liquid naphtha rolling around your precipitation dish when you take it out of the freezer. So as a result, you need to decant the naphtha somewhere.

1) How do you know the naphtha is done dropping crystals? Q21 says once you're "satisfied with the snowglobe," but how do I know what to look for?

2) Where should I decant the naphtha? It seems like a pretty sketchy procedure. You have a wide dish, and you need to tilt it into what? He recommends pouring it into a coffee filter. So how many people is this step supposed to involve? Someone has to hold the paper filter above another container?? Or does he want me to literally decant the naphtha into a damn coffee pot? Where else? The sink? Apparently you don't wanna poor naphtha down the drain. I read Earthwalker say you shouldn't. Why? Where else would you throw it out? In the toilet? Over the balcony of your third story apartment?

This is what Q21 says...

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Step 3: Keep the naphtha in the freezer for a couple hours and you should start seeing crystals forming.
If the naphtha is still foggy that means that there are microscopic DMT-freebase molecules trying to find a crystal to attach to. Once it is clear then it is getting close to being done. It's best to leave it overnight or at least 8-12 hours though.

Step 4: Once you are satisfied with the "snow-globe" take it out and pour off the naphtha. Make sure to pour it off slowly so none of the crystals spill out, then find a (preferably outdoors, fumes) place to lean the container against, the excess naphtha will drip off and evaporate in a couple of hours.
Sometimes the crystals are floating all over. Usually just SLOWLY pouring the naphtha off works. You may need to pour it through a coffee filter to get all the crystals.


He also says...

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"Step 1: Just pop the naphtha straight into the freezer. You can do a recrystallization later for larger crystals, but for the initial step it is best to just put the naphtha in the freezer right away."


3) I don't quite understand when he says you can do a re-X for larger crystals. Is this because there are impurities in it? Perhaps like naphtha in the crystal?
And he also doesn't provide a re-X step in the tek.
 

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endlessness
#2 Posted : 8/9/2015 12:43:26 PM

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Leave for 12 hours in the freezer, its enough. Most crystals are usually stuck to the glass so when you pour, the crystals stay in the glass... Sometimes at least some of the crystals can be floating, so thats why people recommend you pour over a coffee filter. So any floating crystals will stay on top of the filter.

Obviously have the coffee filter on top of a drinking glass or a glass funnel or something, dont use anything made of plastic. You want to keep the naphtha, to reuse, or to evap all the way down till when there's only a small amount of it left and stick in the freezer again to see if more dmt crashes out.
 
cinderblock
#3 Posted : 8/9/2015 11:44:06 PM
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Wouldn't it be more efficient to let the naphtha sit in the fridge longer, since you're saying more crystals could crash out by sticking the leftover naphtha into the fridge.

If you use a paper coffee filter, it could absorb a lot of naphtha.
 
 
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