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hdubyah
#1 Posted : 8/4/2015 7:14:47 PM
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Well, I've decided to attempt my first extraction of DMT from MHRB. I have experience making other compounds and some knowledge of chemistry so I'm not afraid to experiment a little, but I was hoping to learn the opinions of some more experienced extractors regarding a procedure. After researching, I've decided to do a modified version of cyb's "Salt Tek". It seems well thought out and the chemistry is sound, but I have decided to add an extra step to filter the mix and separate the alkaloid from the bark mixture, to make it possible to run the solution through a separatory funnel rather than fuss with a turkey baster. My question is whether it would be more effective to strain/filter the mix after acidification, or after basification?

Basification seems the more obvious choice from a chemistry standpoint, allowing the bark to react with a high molarity basic solution to break it down and convert as much alkaloid as possible, and avoid additional fussing with the DMT after it is separated from the plant matter. Safety wise, however, I do not particularly wish to handle a large volume of extremely caustic solution and attempt to run it through a strainer in my kitchen. I am clumsy and can easily see myself getting burned. Would straining out DMT acetate saturated water before basification allow complete extraction of the alkaloid from the bark, or would it affect my yields?

Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere, I searched and could not find a clear answer.
 

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Pixar
#2 Posted : 8/5/2015 12:03:17 AM

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hdubyah wrote:
Well, I've decided to attempt my first extraction of DMT from MHRB. I have experience making other compounds and some knowledge of chemistry so I'm not afraid to experiment a little, but I was hoping to learn the opinions of some more experienced extractors regarding a procedure. After researching, I've decided to do a modified version of cyb's "Salt Tek". It seems well thought out and the chemistry is sound, but I have decided to add an extra step to filter the mix and separate the alkaloid from the bark mixture, to make it possible to run the solution through a separatory funnel rather than fuss with a turkey baster. My question is whether it would be more effective to strain/filter the mix after acidification, or after basification?

Basification seems the more obvious choice from a chemistry standpoint, allowing the bark to react with a high molarity basic solution to break it down and convert as much alkaloid as possible, and avoid additional fussing with the DMT after it is separated from the plant matter. Safety wise, however, I do not particularly wish to handle a large volume of extremely caustic solution and attempt to run it through a strainer in my kitchen. I am clumsy and can easily see myself getting burned. Would straining out DMT acetate saturated water before basification allow complete extraction of the alkaloid from the bark, or would it affect my yields?

Apologies if this has been addressed elsewhere, I searched and could not find a clear answer.


It might affect yield, but negligeably if you took you're time on the acid step. Either way, It is preferable to filter an acidic solution than a basic one for practical purposes. Also, since your DMT will precipitate in the basic solution some of it might not pass through filter (depending on what you are using).
 
 
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