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SoulPioneer
#1 Posted : 7/24/2015 6:15:07 PM

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Hey guys, so I had a very strange thing happen last night.. Few days ago, I made a small batch of changa. I dissolved 20mg of harmala freebase and 90mg of spice into 99.967% IPA, and infused onto 50mg of Mullein and 50mg of Caapi. Final weight was just over 200mg. So after it dried, I tried it out, just a small hit to test it out. And wow was it strong, I almost blasted off unintentionally from smoking about 40mg of material. But here's the weird part, the next day (yesterday) I decided to blast off, so doing the math, I decided 60mg of material should dose me around 25mg of spice. I weighed out 3 separate 20mg hits, and pulled each one slow and steady, holding for 20+ seconds each (I use a small bong maybe 8-10 inches tall). Not only did I not blast off, but the trip was so mild I was baffled.. So i waited about 2 hours and proceeded to try again, this time with 3 25mg hits. For a total of 75mg that should've held around 30mg of spice. And again, same result. Both tries, I knew something wasn't right the second I exhaled my 2nd hit, because usually at that point everything is becoming trippy and taking the third hit requires concentration even though my glass bong is melting in my hands LOL. Anyways, I was hoping to hear some opinions as to why this happened? I was very disappointed that the same changa that nearly blasted me off on a 40mg hit, barely did anything the following night at both 60 and 75mg doses.. Any thoughts?

I have a few theories.. 1 being that not enough harmala was added to adequately extend the administration time, thus using my 3 hit method (and not rushing like one must do with freebase) resulted in the misfires. To me, this seems the most likely, but still, I definitely wasn't taking that long to administer.. 3 hits, 20 seconds each, and maybe 2-3 breaths between hits. I dunno.. My 2nd theory is that maybe the spice was unevenly distributed among the herbs. But again, I'm not sure how that could've happened.. I spread the herbs out on a small shallow dish, poured the IPA/harmala/spice liquid onto them, and gently mixed and dried... Anyways, anything else possible here that may explain this? Thanks for any replies!
 

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Metanoia
#2 Posted : 7/24/2015 7:43:14 PM

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SoulPioneer wrote:
My 2nd theory is that maybe the spice was unevenly distributed among the herbs.

This would be my guess. Considering the first hit was overly strong, and the rest were underwhelming.

I've had experiences were I was "denied access" to hyperspace, so to speak. The dosage didn't matter, I simply was not breaking through period. Those experiences happened when I was stressed at work or just emotionally off.
 
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#3 Posted : 7/24/2015 8:32:36 PM

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I also feel that uneven distribution of spice and harmalas is most likely the culprit. It is very odd and a bit disappointing when you are fully prepared to blast off and you get little to nothing happening. It is a strange phenomenon.

Sometimes I'll get a hit that is heavy with harmals and little to no DMT and vice versa. Is there any way to improve the even distribution of the goodies? I generally mix mine in a shot glass and stir periodically until most of the liquid evaporates and then I'll spread it out on a pyrex dish or plate for further drying.

Perhaps part of the reason it doesn't distribute evenly is because 99% Iso and 95% Everclear (haven't tried acetone yet) do not completely dissolve harmalas (IME) fully and therefore leave behind larger "deposits" onto your leaf of choice once the solvent evaporates...? This would, in theory, throw off dosages a bit. I may be way off but that seems to make sense to me...
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Metanoia
#4 Posted : 7/24/2015 9:36:50 PM

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Acetone will dissolve harmalas, but not much better than Isopropyl or Ethanol. Acetone is great for making enhanced leaf, sans the harmalas. DMT dissolves very readily in acetone Smile

That said, some of the best blends I've made were with acetone as a solvent. My blends are always pretty light on the harmalas, however. No more than 250mg to 1g spice. One of the really good blends I made with ethanol and acetone, using ethanol for the harmalas and acetone for the spice, in two separate infusions.

I suppose that is one of the biggest challenges with making changa; the solubility (or lack thereof) of the freebase harmalas.

EDIT: This is all assuming the culprit for the misfire is an uneven infusion. I have had those few times where I just couldn't reach really profound effects no matter how much I dosed.
 
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#5 Posted : 7/24/2015 9:43:37 PM

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Metanoia wrote:
One of the really good blends I made with ethanol and acetone, using ethanol for the harmalas and acetone for the spice, in two separate infusions.


^^^This is a brilliant idea, two separate infusions! I will be trying this out next time seeing as I do have acetone and ethanol laying around (just haven't gotten around to using the acetone). Thank you for the idea, Metanoia!

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#6 Posted : 7/24/2015 9:47:29 PM

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Thank you for the idea, Metanoia!

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No problem Smile I think I did it just spontaneously...I had a bit of enhanced leaf I made with acetone and I thought what the heck, let's add some harmalas.
 
 
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