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#1 Posted : 7/10/2015 9:05:08 AM

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I smoked DMT twice about 2 years ago (first time no breakthrough, second time full-on breakthrough).

Ever since, I've had a couple of "minor flashbacks" which are usually accompanied by a BUZZING sound (?).

For example, I went to a psychedelically-themed concert recently and saw a performance by Beats Antique. I have this feeling that the artists have been smoking DMT because of the props and the outfits of the performers.

One of the artists at the concert wore a skin-tight outfit with a black and white checkered pattern. The artist's outfit reminded me of a Hyperspace Jester. It triggered a memory from my own personal breakthrough and I sensed a buzzing. Bzzzzzzzz...

Another time, I was walking in the woods by myself and in my mind's eye I saw a Goddess. The vision was just in my mind's eye, not in reality, and it could have been my imagination. But the Goddess reminded me of an entity. She was black, and her skin had colored patterns that were moving. Her skin moved, and she just sat there in her own dimension. Again, there was a buzzing when I imagined this. It was just in my mind's eye.

Occasionally, late at night, forgotten memories of my DMT breakthrough may pop to the surface. With buzzing. I get slightly concerned, because it feels like I may spontaneously break through again and I really don't want that to happen.

Thing is, prior to my DMT trip I never had these experiences before. These buzzing "flashbacks" seldomly occur, but I have taken notice of them.

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#2 Posted : 7/10/2015 7:25:03 PM

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There's a difference between a flashback and a craving. When I really want to smoke weed I swear I can smell it everywhere. I have had real acid flashbacks and their terrifying you will just be sitting there then all the sudden the walls are melting and swerling. A dmt flashback would be reliving the real deal. A craving is when you think about something till it happens.
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#3 Posted : 7/11/2015 12:52:36 AM

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I've seen mandala-like patterns (or maybe a chrysanthemum? Yeah) engrave themselves on flat surfaces sometimes. The "morphology" of the shapes is reminiscent of DiMiTri. I don't think that's an honest-to-goodness flashback per se but it's definitely something.
 
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#4 Posted : 7/11/2015 9:40:06 PM

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TheCaterpillar wrote:
I have had real acid flashbacks and their terrifying you will just be sitting there then all the sudden the walls are melting and swerling.


I thought it was pretty well established by now that lsd flashbacks are myths and were part of the anti-drug propaganda; that what people are describing as "flashbacks" are a perceptual phenomenon that psychologists label as a "disorder" Rolling eyes ("Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder", or HPPD).

IME, I've done acid probably close to a hundred times and, although I would say it "loosened" my perception, in my 19 years or so since I first started tripping, I have never experienced a full blown trip out of nowhere while sober.

As for DMT flashbacks, nope, never had any.
 
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#5 Posted : 7/12/2015 5:31:23 AM

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After having a full breakthrough with 5-MeO, a couple times a few weeks later while I was laying in bed trying to sleep I felt what was like the beginning of taking off for a trip very much like what I had experienced. It freaked me out a bit and that seemed to be enough to stop it from going further. I became interested in meditation after, as I was convinced that one might be able to achieve similar states through mediation. I still think it's"possible", I just think to get to the same level that 5MeO can get you in 5 seconds, it might take a full life time of hard core practice in meditation.
 
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#6 Posted : 7/12/2015 7:45:42 AM

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Essentially everyone (bar maybe 0.001% of the population) would need to smoke MASSIVE amounts of DMT to even get near the point of HPPD being severe enough to cause a break through while sober, probably on the scale of multiple break throughs every day for a while if its even possible.

As for more "normal" HPPD I think I'm in a rather unique camp in that I got very prominent and short lasting HPPD which I directly attribute to an episode of (admittedly abusive) frequent usage of DMT. At the time I was conducting an experiment of sorts on myself with the purpose of seeing exactly what would happen if one were to smoke DMT everyday for awhile (and also to, not proudly and not wisely, stifle boredom). The doses being vaped weren't major, probably only 15 - 25mg at a time 2-3x usually over the course of an hour or two. The first two days went off without a hitch, normal expected reactions from those doses. However on the third day the trips began to get very dark, with a focus on paranoia. The hallucinations moved away from patterns of colors and into the territory of faces and shadow animals/people in the corner of my vision accompanied with an intense feeling of dread. There was a real fear that my hallucinations would do me harm while intoxicated, which wasn't all that irrational considering the nature of my hallucinations. There are three examples that stick out very prominently, two of which lasted after the effects of DMT wore off (one which lasted past the day of the experience).

The first of these examples involved a picture of Mary holding the baby jesus (link to a very similar picture), after dosing the face of Mary took on nearly an identical facial expression that the Thwomps in the video game Super Mario World have. Along with this expression came the realization/fear that the picture would begin to talk to me, similar to some symptoms of some forms of schizophrenia. The picture never did speak to me, nor do I think it would have, but after the experience whenever I looked at that picture on my wall it would retain the expression of the Thwomp until I took it down because of just how disconcerting this was (along with the fact it appears to stare at me when I sleep due to the way it's painted). I took the picture down about 3 days after the experience.

The second and third of these seemingly malicious hallucinations (that is, that the hallucinations themselves appeared to have or be a personification of the intent to harm) are related. These hallucinations consisted of heads (which I creatively refer to as, "The head" ), of which they have an EXTREMELY similar appearance to a person in a Vice documentary. Search "Medical Miracles of Ambien" on Youtube, the heads I saw bore the resemblance of the person in the thumbnail that they chose (which is interesting because I have a rather colorful history with ambien, which is a completely different story). The first time I saw this head was around the 4th or 5th day of the experiment, it appeared in my window as I looked outside at approximately 2pm. Normally the view from that window is of green, due to the trees that populate my area, but one quarter of the window consisted of just the head which was stationary. The second time I saw this head was the day directly after, in which a Ushanka that I keep hanging on a dresser directly in front of my couch (where I spend most of my time) which morphed into the head. What was disturbing (aside from the fact that the head appeared to actually be wearing my Ushanka) is that it also looked dead, with its eyes looking upwards (but not rolled back exposing only whites, the pupils were still visible). This hallucination also lasted for 24+ hours after the experience, with no diminishing of it after the effects wore off. It may have lasted even longer, but I rotated the Ushanka on the object it is hanging on and that seemed to get rid of it.

While those experiences were definitely not the smartest things I've ever done (and no one should attempt to do it, a psychotic break was becoming a very real possibility and probably would have occurred had I not stopped) and I would never repeat that type of dosage regimen with any psychedelic, I'm glad I went through it. It fostered a new found vastly increased respect for DMT and gave me a fascinating insight and lasting interest in mental illness, with the days that followed being filled with learning about mental illness. It actually prompted me to dig out a DSM-4 that was given to me as a gift but never looked at until recently.
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#7 Posted : 7/12/2015 5:19:32 PM

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Fascinating. I have minor HPPD from using a lot of LSD and a great many other psychedelics for a good period of time (about a decade). I also started at a very young age and I think this might have made me more susceptible to it. It is more exaggerated when I smoke pot but even then it's not so bad that it makes my life like more difficult or anything. I have never experienced anything like what you described. Just very light mushroom/LSD like visuals (enhanced colour, tracers, and other slight visual distortions that actually make me think more of the smoother visuals of mushrooms than LSD). I have never experienced a LSD flashback of any kind and also thought that that was just a myth but don't know for sure. I have used DMT many times as well but have only had one "breakthrough" experience. I wouldn't doubt that it's totally possible to have some kind of DMT flashback experience though.
 
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#8 Posted : 7/13/2015 4:07:49 AM

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I've had several experiences where I'm lying in bed, always when drifting between being awake and asleep,where I'll all of a sudden hear a whooshing noise and have a very dmt like experience, one I was sat on a chair in darkness, I was looking at myself from behind iwth bright lights hitting me. Very strange.

And just last night I had one, same thing I was going to sleep then all of a sudden I saw fractals twisting, huge noise, and I ended up sat on my balcony looking at myself smoking while my skin was covered in pattern.... They only last a few seconds and I'm always so shocked that I snapnout of it, I'd love to know when its going to happen so could see what's reallly going on.

Could be dreaming, but it feels so dmt like that I'm not sure, interesting none the less! Smile

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#9 Posted : 7/13/2015 6:58:01 AM

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SpartanII wrote:
TheCaterpillar wrote:
I have had real acid flashbacks and their terrifying you will just be sitting there then all the sudden the walls are melting and swerling.


I thought it was pretty well established by now that lsd flashbacks are myths and were part of the anti-drug propaganda; that what people are describing as "flashbacks" are a perceptual phenomenon that psychologists label as a "disorder" Rolling eyes ("Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder", or HPPD).

IME, I've done acid probably close to a hundred times and, although I would say it "loosened" my perception, in my 19 years or so since I first started tripping, I have never experienced a full blown trip out of nowhere while sober.

As for DMT flashbacks, nope, never had any.

I used to eat upwards of 35 hits and i'm not sober when it happens usually i'm really stoned then a song may come up that ive heard on acid then ill start seeing things like im on acid. Its really weird and happens especially when I haven't been stoned in a while I took a huge bong rip the other day and saw my poster breathing for 10 minutes after listing to aoxomoxoa. I can make it stop and start at will when i'm stoned LSA taught me that.Smile
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#10 Posted : 7/13/2015 1:40:18 PM

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flashbacks are a myth yes some times after smoking cannabis are babs
I get visual slight & faintly even sometimes when I'm sober I wouldn't consider this a flashback never heard of this with the dmt but have with LSD with is not true its a myth I like to meditate I think having done DMT quite a few times and LSD I think you just see the world perspective differently and it makes your mind easier to process things you wouldn't normally see but you can kind of see it if that makes sense here is a link to a Mythbusters style urban legends.


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