So, I'm thinking about making Changa with Rue by making tea using the seeds and evaporating said tea onto mint leaves similar to how people make enhanced Caapi leaf.

How much rue should I use per gram of dmt? 1 Gram of rue seed tea to 1 gram of dmt?

Why not extract the harmalas and then add them to your blend? It would be much better in terms of dosage. I had success with The Tao of Rue on my first attempt, large yield and very clean results.

What Metanoia said ^^^

If you have Harmala Alks powdered you can then make real honest to God Changa

Maybe Sandgrease don't want to go trough an extraction and make only a tea like caapi leaf...i'm also interested, could work ? or need to be extracted with rue ? caapi leaf have different alcaloid and work alone or with a 10x water extraction...it's the same with rue ?

I honestly am not sure if it would work exactly the same as it would with a caapi tea. My thinking is that caapi seems to be much nicer....much more gentle than rue. Making a crude rue extraction like that might be for lack of a better word, nasty. Rue alkaloid extractions are time consuming but worth the effort in the long run. It's filter filter filter filter!

Rue tea tastes foul. I imagine vaping rue tea resin to be no better.

Also with refined extract you can actually weigh and experiment with different ratios to suit your needs. Or you could dose before smoking,use for Pharma, sprinkle some in a joint...

You get out what you put in. Effort is rewarded.

Here is one more vote for doing the extraction! It is really quite simple and well worth it as previously mentioned.



Indeed. That is the biggest problem you will likely run into during a Rue extraction.


Good luck with whatever you decide to do

This is so true. If you put time and effort in you are equally rewarded.
My best experiences come after or during extractions be it spice or Harmalas , it's as if some thing is aware of your efforts .