Hello

SWIM followed the tek in the DMT Handbook pretty much to the letter. The only difference being he used Citric rather than Phosporic acid and only simmered the rootbark (100 grams) for 30 minutes rather than 1.5 hours as it said in Vovin's tek that you shouldn't overheat the bark material as it will break down the DMT and cause a loss of yield.

He then added lots of Caustic Soda (he estimates about 150g). This took the ph up to about 11.8. He would have added more to get it above 12 but didn't have any.

3 pulls were then done each with 100ml of Naptha (Ronsonal lighter fluid) and these saved in a glass bowl.

The bowl was then placed in the freezer for 3 days.

The results are shown below including the Naptha. Note the Naptha is quite green and the crysals are by no means white. Is this OK? SWIM's sure it said somewhere on this forum that the colouration of the Naptha/DMT is from tannins in the rootbark.

Could someone please confirm that the crystals are indeed DMT. They look suspiciously like Caustic Soda, but SWIM doesn't have any the moment to compare them to. Does some of the Caustic Soda end up in the Naptha and then fall out during freezing with the DMT?

Do the crystals need to be washed or recrystallised, or are they OK as is? SWIM was intending to make some enhanced leaf. He's ordered some Chacurna leaf and PassionFlower and has some Caapi vine that has been ground up and should be OK to use.

Sorry for all the questions, but he doesn't want to smoke something that is full of contaminants.

Thanks

W

Based on your description and picture,

I would smoke that as-is, absolutely...

PS: the way you get rid of the yellow is to pour the solvent off after you take it out of the freezer, the crystals will stick to the container....

Two things:

1) People are a little confused about freeze precips., IMO. Freeze precips only work "perfectly" when the naphtha is SUPER-SATURATED with spice. To do that, redissolve your product in the minimum amount of quite WARM/HOT naphtha, and then put in freezer. Putting naphtha directly from an extraction into the freezer will almost certainly only retrieve a fraction of the spice in that naphtha. I hope you didn't throw away your naphtha from this bowl. If you evaped it down, you would probably discover a lot more spice.

2) If you're worried about lye (and other stuff), you can removed most water soluble things by doing a final wash in distilled water (containing a "pinch" of sodium carbonate). Redissolve the product in naphtha, and add some water with sodium carbonate (water volume would be 10%-20% of naphtha volume). Give some good shakes, let separate into two fractions, and separate off the naphtha and throw out the water. You can then do that a couple more times with ONLY distilled water.

So, if this were mine I would:

1) Evap the remaining naphtha and collect whatever product comes from that.
2) Combine product from previous freeze. precip and this evap. and wash it (step 2 above)
3) Evap. the naphtha AGAIN, to collect all the washed spice, then do a "full" freeze-precip. (step 1 above).

What you end up with after that will be highly purified spice.

Thanks for the replies. SWIM is glad that what he has is spice. He still has the Naptha shown in the pic. He will have a go at evaporating this down to see if it will yield anymore goodies.

Regards

W

you could evap your naptha down until the crystals start appearing. then, it's reached it's max saturation. then put it into the freezer.

I am currently evaporting down the Naptha. This may take some time though as I ended up with 200ml.

W