yip - i realized why my other 3 experiences after my first ones were so different - its because i tried to go on my own - aegle wasnt there, nor were her tingshaws.
wont make that mistake again.

jungle spice and spice - neither is more potent really imo - they are very very different tho.
i would like to try pure clear xtals of spice - white has been tried and disliked, but im not sure i ever will try it.
It seems the more u purify it - the more processes u use - the more it looses.
i like my broad spectrum spice and wont ever go back to using petrochems for spice.
oh yeah and dlimonene kix ass - i cant say this enough.

Except that there's no denying that the whole HISTORY of spice smoking has been based on "petrochem" extractions. I don't think there can be any question about the ability of "petrochem spice" to, ultimately, take you on the ultimate voyage--even if some might consider the ride a bit bumpy...

hehe...just thought that, having the term jungle spice, the term for the "usual" spice could be "OPEC spice" (OPEC = Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries)....or, maybe just "Petro Spice."

well its been extracted with petrochems for a while so the standard - spice should suffice and i have no doubt (from experience) that it works well.
u can also get perfectly white spice with high yeilds using this tek, cleaning the fumarate then cleaning the freebase, without petrochems.
life would be easier if a natural alternative to naptha and heptane were found.

on trying this spice once - ul know what i mean. it is the best.

No, I no longer doubt there's a difference, or that jungle spice has characteristics that are to be valued.

It's only that for me personally, my thinking is directed at "purified" spice right now because I want to reduce as many variables as possible when looking at the plausibility of using the nebulizer. I want to do initial tests on the nebulizer with the simplest possible constituents.

i think the nebulizer is a great idea and im glad u see the diff - i just wish it could be proved to be a separate substance in a lab.

The spice that was smoked last was totally different.
so swim has tried 3 of his various spices so far and the difference is huge.

1 other thing - the taste is very different too.
the more pure spice always leaves a tingle on my lips and in my mouth - like it feels as if ur inhailing something caustic(even tho its been re-x'd a few times)
the less pure spice has no tingle but the spice smell and taste is still strong. - feels better for u and the problems i had encountered controlling my breathing when smoking spice is not an issue with the jungle stuff.
smoking pure spice always left me feeling like im not breathing enough or something - that really held me back because i was not 100% comfy leaving my body with erratic breathing. didnt feel safe - now i dont even think about it.

...all issues I hope the nebulizer will circumvent!

No need to order that stuff online, you can just go to a garden/hydroponic store and acquire pH up. Some products contain pure potassium hydroxide concentrate, and work just as well.

ok i think i figured it out

the spice that hits so damn hard and always in the same way - the spice that scares swim
it seems to occur when swim does a stb then to fumarate then freebase again - then repeats the fumarate and freebase step -
that spice is very different to normal spice or natural spice. - even taken from natural spice its the same - always it feels like im packed tightly in a box with some hostile repetitive insectoid human - the same size as me (shudder)
please would someone try this.