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hixidom
#1 Posted : 5/26/2015 4:21:03 PM
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I measured out 1 level tsp of Syrian Rue seeds and ground them up in a coffee grinder. I rolled up the resulting powder between 3 squares of tissue paper and swallowed them with a gulp of cool-aid quickly but carefully so as not to tear the single-ply barrier between my tongue and the noxious substance. I didn't think to fast beforehand as my psychedelic experiences tend to be more on the spontaneous side these days, but I hadn't eaten a huge breakfast either. I spent the next hour or so running some errands, after which I could feel the first effects of the Syrian Rue. In a wooden chair in my bedroom, I vaped some unknown yet typical dose of DMT using The Machine. The first thing I noticed was that the come-up of the experience was much more gradual, taking several minutes rather than several seconds.

The next phase of the trip is a blur to me, but it consisted mostly of my consciousness trying to regain any sort of foothold in reality. The process was very much like being born (I imagine) as every experience seemed so new. There was an overload of information, and as I took in this information I had conscious control over its algorithmic mapping to my outputs (self-reprogramming).

But my ultimate goal was to experience the beautiful day outside while on DMT, so I cautiously made my way outside, making sure not to forget my keys and trying to appear as normal as possible (I have 3 roommates but I didn't run into any of them). I was listening to music through headphones. When I got outside the real magic began. I walked in a direction where I knew I would find a grassy area to plop myself down in. The first tree I encountered was possibly the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. It undulated in the breeze, and the sunlight, along with the natural coloring of the tree, created complex patterns that were literally jaw-dropping. The experience of shifting perception resulting from moving through space was incredible, like a trip through hyperspace. As I walked along the woodline I took in the beauty of every living thing, the color of the outdoors; It felt very much like I was being romanced. I was in love, and I felt such freedom and appreciation. Every perception was like a handshake between two conscious beings, and I saw a much bigger picture of the evolution of consciousness. To the extent that I am conscious, plants are conscious on a much slower timescale, and with time greatly dilated, I felt like I was also conscious on this timescale. As I sat in the grass, I was pummeled by realizations, and it seemed like many hours had passed. I was shocked when the song ended, indicating that I had only been outside for around 5 minutes. The clouds looked like transforming machines. They were colorful and sharp, as though composed of crystals. After another 10-20 minutes of this, I felt the love starting to fade. Perhaps the sun simply went away, but everything seemed a little more gloomy, or at least a little more normal. I think the DMT was wearing off, or already had. In any case it was very hard to identify line where the DMT effects ended and the Rue effects began.

I went back inside and vaped a bit more (a "monster rip" is what I termed it in my head). The process of rebalancing my consciousness was very much the same, with the main difference being that I had done it before. This sensation followed me outside again. I felt old, experienced, wiser. I felt vast amounts of knowledge enter my mind, processed by an ever-growing intelligence. All of my fears and ambitions melted away, and I realized that there is an intrinsic limit to intelligence in the universe. I put my mp3 player aside after discovering that I was unable to comprehend how to navigate its menues. I realized (and with driving a bit later) that so much of my daily life is carried out by muscle memory, and that when I am given conscious control of such tasks the whole process suddenly breaks down. I sat in a different patch of grass, this time near the road, and watched cars go by for what seemed like hours (probably only minutes). I saw how small we are, how we evolve to fit our environment and vice versa, how life forms from nothing always, how intelligence is a turbulent process: It arises as a small chaotic motion when the conditions for a particular type of complexity are present and snowballs into a hurricane that encompasses everything it encounters and grows at an exponential rate. I saw death as a part of this growth, as a purposeful function of life on Earth as a whole rather than as the end of an individual human life. I took off my shirt and lied in the grass. I felt the sun baking me, my eventual death approaching, the decay processes starting to set in. Seeping into the grass, my body became a fixture of that particular place on Earth, and I imagined myself lightyears away, seeing the pattern of my body on the Earth's surface as a mere geological feature, wondering what natural process resulted in such a pattern, unable to fully comprehend that I was in fact part of an ecosystem that is broadcasting its sentience by the only means possible so far. I hummed slightly as I breathed: It was the constant droning of a chemical manufacturing plant that converts chemical energy into consciousness. This sort of thinking (themes of life, death, age, intelligence) went on for what seemed like much longer than it actually was.

Eventually I got up and walked home. I felt like I had been alone for a long time, and I called up a friend and awkwardly persuaded her to go for a walk with me around the lake. I recharged my brain's DMT levels before driving to meet her, which was a carelessly terrible idea since psychedelics reduce our ability to value human life (in particular) thus allowing us to put ourselves and others at risk unnecessarily. The drive seemed safe, but again my lack of inhibition caused by undue trust of my abilities was the origin of the danger. The walk around the lake was lovely, and by the end (after an hour or so) I felt more or less sober again. Midway through the walk I started to feel nauseous. At first I thought I might vomit eventually but, as the nausea plateaued, I found that throwing up was avoidable.

All in all, it was a wonderful experience. It was much less like what I expect from DMT and much more like what I expect from, say, acid (in quality, not duration). I was surprised that the individual DMT doses did not last very long. I expected the vaped DMT to last as long as the Rue effects, but rather it had a half life of about 20 minutes after it's come-up of about 5-10 minutes.
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3rdI
#2 Posted : 5/26/2015 6:44:47 PM

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I recharged my brain's DMT levels before driving to meet her. I was aware of every little step in the driving process, especially the ones that are normally subconscious, and to me this made the drive seem much safer.

epic fail
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hixidom
#3 Posted : 5/26/2015 7:12:47 PM
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epic fail

*sigh* That was hurtful, but go on: Tell me all about how the sober human mind is the superior manifestation of consciousness.
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3rdI
#4 Posted : 5/26/2015 7:21:13 PM

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not as hurtful as when you crash into someone else and do god knows how much damage, you can sigh all you like but driving a car under the influence is idiotic at best.
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hixidom
#5 Posted : 5/26/2015 8:03:33 PM
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not as hurtful as when you crash into someone else and do god knows how much damage, you can sigh all you like but driving a car under the influence is idiotic at best.

You've rudely bashed the validity of my psychedelic experience. Meanwhile you've accused me of putting lives at greater risk while providing zero evidence for your claim that my particular state of mind at the time could not have actually improved my driving ability. You've called me "idiotic".

I think your posts clearly violate the Attitude guidelines of the Nexus.
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3rdI
#6 Posted : 5/26/2015 8:05:24 PM

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i said driving while tripping was idiotic which it is. you're delusional. tripping and driving is not safe under any circumstances. get a grip
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hixidom
#7 Posted : 5/26/2015 8:07:33 PM
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you're delusional. tripping and driving is not safe under any circumstances. get a grip

Your continued use of baseless claims gives me nothing to grab onto.
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3rdI
#8 Posted : 5/26/2015 8:14:11 PM

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my claims are based on the fact that you're taking massively powerful hallucinogenic drugs and driving a car, earlier on you couldnt even work an MP3 player.

you are playing with other people lives.
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oversoul1919
#9 Posted : 5/26/2015 8:15:20 PM

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Sorry, but I have to agree with 3rdI.

Driving + tripping = big no no IMHO.

I only find stimulants go well with driving.
 
3rdI
#10 Posted : 5/26/2015 8:17:31 PM

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oversoul1919 wrote:
I only find stimulants go well with driving.

no drugs go well with driving.

is this the twilight zone
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#11 Posted : 5/26/2015 8:20:52 PM

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3rdI wrote:
oversoul1919 wrote:
I only find stimulants go well with driving.

no drugs go well with driving.

is this the twilight zone


I'm only telling from my experience. Increased focus and attention from one stimulant (don't want to say which one) is undeniable. And I only did that once. I never drove under influence of any psychoactive substance since I almost had accident once. Alcohol was to blame then.

I'm not promoting use of any drug while driving. Drive sober, is my honest advice.
 
hixidom
#12 Posted : 5/26/2015 8:54:36 PM
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earlier on you couldnt even work an MP3 player.

This was a long experience, and even if working my mp3 player was somehow neurologically equivalent to driving a car, the driving took place much later when the character of the experience was undoubtedly different. Anyways, the basic comparison is invalid, because most people who can drive a car probably couldn't work my mp3 at the speed I was attempting.

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no drugs go well with driving.

is this the twilight zone

You're just being unsensible. If I'm tired, does not caffiene allow me to drive better? In general, if I have a psychological disorder that keeps me from driving well, does not my medication help to that effect? That argument applies to a wide range of drugs. I am simply arguing that the sober brain is also defective in various ways that SOME psychedelics MIGHT improve.

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I'm only telling from my experience. Increased focus and attention from one stimulant (don't want to say which one) is undeniable.

I'm just going by my experience as well. I had improved visual attention and resolution and an overall heightened sense of awareness of not only everything that was happening but also everything that could have happened. Driving is a task that is so subconscious that most people will probably agree that spans of time focusing on driving can seem lost while our nervous system keeps us alive on the road. Since this sort of daydreaming was impossible for me, as I was conscious of everything, I don't see how my driving abilities were not improved.
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3rdI
#13 Posted : 5/26/2015 9:06:50 PM

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You're just being unsensible

the irony runs deep

you justify your rediculous actions however you want.

Being under the influence of DMT and harmalas and driving is not safe, you are a danger to other road users.

im done with this

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hixidom
#14 Posted : 5/26/2015 9:40:32 PM
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the irony runs deep

you justify your rediculous actions however you want.

Being under the influence of DMT and harmalas and driving is not safe, you are a danger to other road users.

im done with this

All you've done is repetitively thrust your opinion at me as fact with no justification before essentially rage quitting. I am utterly shocked by your undue snideness and unwillingness to engage in civil discussion.
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#15 Posted : 5/26/2015 10:52:20 PM

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I agree with 3rdI, driving under influence could lead to problems. I won't convince you of safety rules so i just quote the FAQ for other people who could read this thread :
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Obviously DO NOT have sharp objects around, smoke next to cliffs, driving etc...
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hixidom
#16 Posted : 5/26/2015 11:21:54 PM
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I agree that driving while on psychedelics is a bad idea in general, and I don't recommend it. Thanks for referencing the FAQ. I'll add something about this to the OP.
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Hey thanx for the report Smile Great read.

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