I am in the process of an extraction using Syrian Rue. Using a basic tek I discovered on the Nexus some time ago. Just a standard A/B extraction using salt in the later stages to aid in the precipitation of the alkaloids. As simple as it is, I think I may have screwed up a little. The pot I used in several stages of the extraction had some kind of non-stick coating. I didn't even think of this until too late. When I emptied the pot I noticed that the bottom of it was shining like a diamond but the sides still had the coating on them. Now the tek I have been using called for many more stages of filtering after I noticed this. I went ahead and doubled all of the filtering requirements just to try and be in the clear. But I am in the final stage I have my alkaloids drying out. They are darker than the pictures I have seen. Very dark brown rather than the light brown/golden color I have seen in the past. Since I have never done an extraction on Rue, I am not sure what normal is besides internet knowledge.

Would some of you more experienced chemistry guys weigh in on the safety of this? Could that coating (assuming it is cermaic) be left over in the final product? If any of it is left over in the final product, how safe would it be to use this product? Also, maybe I am jumping the gun here. Are the alkaloids typically that much darker before drying out completely? They do seem to be lightening up as they dry.

I do not like to do things unsafely or without the proper knowledge. I was planning on throwing this project out and starting over but if it isn't necessary I would like to keep it. I have been extracting DMT for years but I am new to the harmala thing. Just recently started acquiring herbs and extracts to begin making and experimenting with changa and enhanced herb. Any insight or knowledge you could give me on the topic would be more than welcome.

I would redissolve in water with ph 3-4, maybe let it run trough a coffee filter and then do a manske with hcl salt. Redissolve the crystals in water with ph 3 - 4 and then base with soda.

It must precipitate light brown then.

That is exactly what I have done in an attempt to clean it as best I can. It is still dark brown. But I guess doing it all once more will not hurt anything. Rue is cheap but I still like to produce as little waste as possible. I would feel terrible throwing it all away. Thanks for the help and validation. I don't think any of the ceramic coating could have made it in to the final product. Do you? I could see the black specs of the coating floating in my liquid before I began filtering so I do not suspect it could have made it through the filtering.

Definitely drying out to look as it should. Might not need anything else after all.

Cool good to hear, I always do more then one manske else it ends up to dark imo.

Hey man,

I know you're further down the process, probably finished by now so I was wondering how many manskes and bases you did before you achieved a color similar to the alkaloids shown in the tek.

My alkaloids are incredibly dark after the second mankse compared to the alkaloids shown in photos in the tao of rue tek (between steps 6 - 10).

Thinking of basing once then a manske or two then a final base. But I guess whatever it takes to get it to atleast a light tan/brown colour as I've seen in some photos. There is no hurry afterall.

One question. Have you let it dry completely yet? Mine was very dark before it dried completely. And I honestly couldn't tell you how many times I did the process. It was at least 5.