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travsha
#1 Posted : 5/12/2015 12:56:18 AM

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I did a quick search and didn't notice too much about past lives posted here yet.... This is something I just recently got into and it has been incredibly insightful in a very personal way for me.

A couple months ago, I wasn't even sure I believed in past lives... I saw some evidence, but had never experienced my own consciously. But lately I have been working at a local college with another teacher teaching "Indigenous Wisdom" (basically shamanic healing), and she gave the class an exercise which I also decided to try at home.

The class was focused on shamanic journey work, but astral projection or other visionary work should also work fine for this (plant medicines would be another good option for those with experience there). I used shamanic journey to start this process, but eventually did further work with San Pedro and other plants to go deeper into what I was learning. In shamanic journey though, it is common for people to have a specific guide they work with a lot - their "upper world teacher" or maybe their "patron." (could have many different names, but this is your main spirit guide at the moment)

So you ask this guide to show you three different past lives while you are in journey mode or some kind of altered/visionary state. If working with plant medicines or another psychedelic, ask the plant maybe. The questions are:
1. Show me the life where I suffered the most.
2. Show me the life where I had power and did the most harm.
3. Show me the life where I had power and did the most good.


Now, without sharing the very personal details I found out about myself, let me tell you - these 3 lives specifically have taught me so much about my current personality and why my life is the way it is now. Just two months into this learning, I have gotten a ton of insight and even some healing from this process. My wife also did this work for herself and has gotten very powerful results as well. This has also opened up a can of worms where we have started experiencing other past lives beyond these 3 as well...

I wanted to share these 3 questions for anyone else who feels called to investigate them. Know thyself! I would love to hear any experiences people have looking into these lives as well. You might need some skill at either visionary psychedelic navigation, shamanic journey, astral projection, or visionary experiences of some kind, but if you have a little experience and have the right guide to help you, this process should be pretty easy and just naturally unfold by itself once you initiate the inquiry. So far the few people I have shared this idea with have reported interesting results!

I had a month of consecutive ceremonies going deeper into my past lives, but a few weeks ago it stopped.... Maybe I went as deep as I am supposed to go for now, but I am hoping it starts up again at some point.... I was learning a lot! I know there is more there I haven't gotten to yet as well.

Hope this idea inspires others - and please share your experiences! (as much as seems appropriate) Maybe if a few people share their stories I will post more of what I saw, but I don't want to color others experiences before anyone has tried it yet.... Blessed journeys!
 

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cubeananda
#2 Posted : 5/12/2015 4:29:11 PM

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My experience is that our consciousness does not have past lives, and the past lives we perceive are simply manifestations of people's karma which can benefit you most.

I can only assume that the dead look either for new lives, or to find a way to influence the living. We are not those past lives we perceive, and they are far more empirically just smoke and mirrors.
 
travsha
#3 Posted : 5/12/2015 5:39:38 PM

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Interesting. I think a few months ago I might have agreed with you.

I want to share a story that I didnt write, but really love.... Seems related.

You were on your way home when you died.

It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.

And that’s when you met me.

“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”

“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.

“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”

“Yup,” I said.

“I… I died?”

“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.

You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”

“More or less,” I said.

“Are you god?” You asked.

“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”

“My kids… my wife,” you said.

“What about them?”

“Will they be all right?”

“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”

You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.

“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”

“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”

“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”

“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”

“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”

You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”

“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”

“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”

“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”

I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.

“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”

“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”

“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”

“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”

“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”

“Where you come from?” You said.

“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”

“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”

“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”

“So what’s the point of it all?”

“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”

“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.

I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”

“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”

“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”

“Just me? What about everyone else?”

“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”

You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”

“All you. Different incarnations of you.”

“Wait. I’m everyone!?”

“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.

“I’m every human being who ever lived?”

“Or who will ever live, yes.”

“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”

“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.

“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.

“And you’re the millions he killed.”

“I’m Jesus?”

“And you’re everyone who followed him.”

You fell silent.

“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”

You thought for a long time.

“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”

“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”

“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”

“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”

“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”

“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”

And I sent you on your way.


~ The Egg by Andy Weir
 
travsha
#4 Posted : 5/12/2015 6:04:57 PM

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The interesting thing is that learning about these past lives has actually helped me greatly in my current life. I have recently had lots of my clients start doing past life work as well - and sometimes they have had physical changes to accompany the work we did in their past lives.

One interesting experience I can share is work my wife has been doing. She is a nanny for a 5 month year old baby. The baby has started pulling my wife into its past lives so my wife could help the baby with healing work, and each time it changes the babies behavior afterwards!

For example - the baby has always had trouble sleeping. Seems common enough. Well, my wife was trying to put the baby to sleep, when suddenly she had these visions of the baby in a past life.
The baby was in charge of keeping watch for his village at night. (wasnt a baby but a young adult in this past life though - a young man with the same face as the baby)
But he fell asleep and while sleeping his village was attacked. Many of his loved ones were killed and he was deeply hurt and shamed.
My wife started nurturing this man in the vision who was so disappointed in himself. The man slowly started merging with an image of the baby and once they became one person my wifes vision ended.


Since then the baby sleeps all the time and has no more issues going to sleep. The problem fixed itself overnight. This happened one month ago and after 4 months of baby not sleeping well ever, now it almost always sleeps well.
 
cubeananda
#5 Posted : 5/12/2015 6:23:24 PM

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Nice story :-)

 
travsha
#6 Posted : 5/12/2015 6:56:42 PM

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I love that story.... It's an interesting idea. Interesting way of looking at the world around you - I think it helps nurture compassion and empathy.... Who knows what the nature of the universe is? I couldn't say, but I do know I really like that story Big grin
 
 
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