I thought I share a couple of shots of my Pure Freebase DMT from this tek.
As usual the camera is lame, but the color is right on this time!

* I did the normal D-Limo/FASW tek.
* Then after basifying it, I washed it, using Naptha to leave behind the "jungle spice" elements & pull out only the pure N,N-DMT.
* I did a very small, very fast Sodium Carbonate wash on the Naptha. (only takes a pinch)
* The Naptha then went into the freezer for undisturbed precipitation for a few days.
* Filtered the crystals out of the Naptha
* Took half of them & did a recrystallization on it using about 25ml of Heptane.

I now have a little over a half gram of very pure, clear/white crystals.
A couple of the crystals are very big, possibly a whole 50mg dose in one crystal! Gotta weigh one.

I'm planning on recrystallizing the other half of the gram of DMT with Heptane too.
Although I think I'll let it crystallize at room temp over a week or instead of freeze precipitating it, to see it I can get it to grow some larger crystals.
(EDIT: I recrystallized the rest, it's been sitting at room temp for only about 4 hours now & there are 4 large, round, spiked crystal formations grown already!! Pretty big ones...already...why have I never tried this before?)

Beautiful!
It was not hard at all!

WS

nice dude! high fucking five!

So this is SWIM's results from freebasing using sodium carb, and then extracting and evapping using IPA.

What kind of container is that?

It's just a square glass dish, it's actually a lid for a larger container that typically holds flour or sugar in the kitchen.

Right on, just looked like it had kind of weird shaped sides or something.
Probably just the camera/angle or something.

Thanks

WS

warrensaged - what was the yeild %

Nice, I use that tek alot as well!

What you see in those pics is a little over 500mg, there is another 500mg+ still precipitating at room temp from another re-crystalization.
I pulled out 1.855g of dry "Jungle Spice" Fumarate, from 80g of pre-powdered MHRB.
After basifying it & removing the "Jungle" element, but before the Bestine recrystallization, I yielded 1.25g of freebase DMT.
That was split in half (2 x .625mg) and I did the recrystallizing with Bestine (Heptane) on each.

Freeze precipitation was used to retrieve the now pure-as-snow crystals on one half. That's it, in the pics above.
I yielded .585mg of small, round, clear/white crystals from that half, using my fridge & freezer to help precipitate it quickly.

The other half is still precipitating at room temp. (this takes a lot more time, but the crystals grown are much, much bigger & more pure as well!!)
I'll add some pics of those beauties when the process is finished.
So far there are about 5-6 large crystal formations growing, that look very similar to lotus flowers, but with clear petals!!
There are a couple of the smaller formations on the bottom of the beaker that have a yellow tint to them, at the base of the growth.
But the two biggest crystal formations are growing off of the side of the beaker & they are totally, 100% clear all the way through!!!

I hope I'll be able to get them off the glass & out of the beaker without breaking up the "petals" or destroying the formations!!
Anyone have some suggestions on how to best do that?

The DMT was already quite clean, before I did this process, so when I was dissolving the DMT in the Bestine, only a small amount yellow oil coagulated on the bottom of the beaker.
After a couple minutes of letting the yellow impurities drop out for sure, the Bestine/DMT was moved to another clean beaker for precipitation.
I let the first beaker with the remaining oil in it sit out in the open for a day & no crystallization resulted, or even began, so I'm pretty sure I got all of the DMT out of there successfully!

Phlux, I'll let you know the exact weights that I end up with, once I get the room temp precipitants out of the solvent.
I'm also going to borrow a high quality digital camera from a friend, to take some pics of these beauties whe their finished.
as they are very impressive & the camera in my phone just isn't going to do it any justice!!
I'll re-shoot the freeze precipitated crystals too, as those pics have hardly any detail at all.

I know that big DMT crystals don't add to the potency or anything, but damn they are fark'in cool to look at!!!
And interesting to grow too!

WS

warrensage,

What you're do sound FANTASTIC. But I'm confused about it.

First, how did you happen to come upon the idea of doing room temp recrystallization in bestine? Is the idea that contaminants are expected to remain in the bestine at room temp, but DMT will drop out--whereas at freezer temp, both DMT AND contaminants will drop out? If so, isn't it odd that the yellow oils didn't in fact dissolve well in bestine in the first place? (I'm confused about why they wouldn't).

Second (I may have missed this somewhere in earlier posts): Did you heat the bestine for dissolving the DMT? What temp did you bring it to? Did you have to wait until it got back near room temp before the yellow oils coagulated?

Sorry if you've stated this earlier...

I'm also confused about the above (which I've changed to numbers, from you * markings).

1) With this tek you end up with DMT-fumarate, right? So...
2) Wouldn't you remove "jungle spice" using naphtha BEFORE basifying it, rather than after? And so...
3) This was is on NEW naphtha, right? Not the naphtha used to wash in step two, but the naphtha to which the subsequently basified DMT was transferred to, correct?

I'm just trying to get this all absolutely clear, because it seems like a nice tek.

what happens with room temp recrystallization is that the heptane slowly evaporates which then allows the dmt to crystallize
much slower than would happen in a freezer...so any impurities WOULD remain in the heptane and then get deposited onto the
crystals...but thats why he did a freeze precip first...and THEN did the *possibly* warm heptane wash to just pick up the purest
of dmt..

also jungle spice isnt soluble in naptha or heptane...so you HAVE to freebase the jungle spice fumarate first..and THEN use the
naphtha or heptane to pull off ONLY the dmt and not the j spice..

also it is not new naphtha..its the naphtha that was used to to pull just the pure dmt...what the sodium carbonate wash does is
pull out any impurities(hopefully) from the naphtha but leaving the pure dmt behind..

OK, I'll just write out an explanation of what I did, rather than add another post where only a part of it is mentioned.

1* I extracted 80g of pre-powdered MHRB using the D-Limo/FASW tek on the first page of this thread. Doing three 75ml D-Limo pulls & adding them together & filtered them a few times.
Then did three 25ml FASWater pulls to get the "Jungle "DMT-Fumarate out of the D-Limo & filtered it a few times.
Allowed that to evaporate & scraped up the 1.855g of "Jungle Spice"-Fumarate.

2* Now I basified it using 2x as much Sodium Carbonate as DMT-Fumarate & just enough water to get it all totally wet & mixed together well, then allowed it to dry completely.

3* I broke this into powder & dissolved it in around 30ml of warm, Fresh Naptha, after mixing well for about 5 minutes I allowed it to completely settle for like an hour & decanted the Naptha. Then I repeated this with 10ml more, 2 more times. I combined all 50ml of Naptha, filtered it a few times & did a fast Sodium Carbonate wash using just the tiniest pinch of SC in about 15ml of distilled water the first time & just 15ml of D-water 2 more times.
Made sure there was no water left in it!!!
Then I sealed the beaker it was in & let it set at room temp for an hour, then into the fridge for 12 hours, then into the freezer for 4 days.
(note: It only needs to go into the freezer for like 24 hours or so, but I took it out the next time I had a little while to deal with the rest of the process)
I got the crystals out of the solvent by filtering it through a small Buchner funnel. And let it all dry completely.
This resulted in 1.25g of mostly pure, white freebase DMT.
There was a layer of spice on the bottom of the beaker that was off white-to-yellow.

Now I divided this into two equal piles & did the re-crystallization's using Bestine.

4* (wash & freeze precipitation) I used about 20ml of Bestine warmed in a heat bath to about 110F degrees, to dissolve around .625mg of the DMT, added a drop at a time, until it was all dissolved completely. I let it sit for a minute and poured it off into another beaker, leaving a yellow, oily film on the bottom. I dropped in another 10ml of warm Bestine, swirled it around a bit & poured that into the second beaker with the rest, 2 times.
I now covered the beaker tightly with plastic wrap & used rubber bands to hold it secure. (2 layers of plastic wrap & rubber bands, the second one sealing & securing around the first)
This was left out to cool to room temp for a hour or so & then put into the fridge over night. In the morning I moved it into the freezer for 24 hours.
Then I decanted the Bestine off of the small, round crystals & let them dry completely before scraping them out & onto a dish. That is what is in the pictures at the top of page 7.
.585mg of very pure, super clear & white N,N-DMT crystals!!
(the Bestine was returned to the can with the rest, to be used again next time)

5* (room temp crystallization) I took the other .625mg of the DMT from the Naptha precip & washed it with Bestine in the same exact way. Only difference was I used slightly less Bestine, only ended up with 20ml of it total.
After sealing the beaker, I put it in the back of a closet, to cool to room temp & where it could remain, totaly undissturbed to slowly grow crystals for the past 2 days.
When it's finished growing, I plan to decant off the Bestine I let em dry.

That's it.

Jokerst, your almost right about the room temp recrystallization, you don't have to evap the solvent, but you can in the end, just to be sure you got everything.
(of course "everything", means any impurities that would have been left suspended in the solvent are now part of your yield again)

Basically the idea is when the solvent is warm, it will hold more DMT.
So you want to use just enough solvent to dissolve the spice, let the impurities coagulate on the bottom & pour off the solvent into a clean container fairly quickly, then seal it while it's all still warm. It needs to be very super-saturated!!
As it cools, some of the DMT will begin to crash out & form small crystals.
(also, a small vacuum will form this way, as any oxygen sealed in there, will contract as it cools too!! Sucking the plastic seal down into the beaker a bit.)
Then as a few days pass, the rest of the DMT will begin to form together with those crystals & grow very large, very pure crystal formations that look like beautiful flowers!! Lotus flowers to be exact!!
(you can also add an already made crystal to the jar before sealing, to "seed" the solvent & the DMT in the solvent will form onto the "seed crystal" & make it bigger & bigger!!)

The faster you precipitate them (freeze precip...), the smaller the crystals will be.
If you do it very slowly, undissturbed at room temp, they grow bigger over time.
You can even slow down the cooling even more after sealing the beaker, by then placing it, 1/2 submerged in a small heat bath at like 100-120F degrees or so & allow it to sit there, until the heat bath has completely cooled down to room temp first, before removing the beaker & placing somewhere it can be totally undisturbed for a few days. This will cause even larger, fuller crystal formations!!
Since they come out totally clear, I'm willing to believe they are also more than likely 100% pure DMT!!

After they stop growing, usually 3-4 days, a week to be safe, you can let the solvent evaporate away, or stick the jar in the freezer to get the rest of the crystals out of the solvent for sure. But that may not even be necessary if left to grow long enough.
Then decant off the excess solvent & let dry.

Naptha can also be used to do the same thing, but bestine is a better solvent for this.


OK that's enough typing for now...

Did I answer those questions SF?


WS

1) I took from his explanation that he did HALF his product via freeze precip, and then decided to do the OTHER HALF by the RT precip.

2) OK. I don't really know what "jungle spice" is (other alkaloids, I guess). So all that "other stuff" gets (or is always) insoluble in naphtha...hmmm....good to know. Certainly, ALL kinds of fats and gunk ARE soluble in naphtha...

3) So, sure, if the basification came before the naphtha, then it's not new. I understand the purpose of the sodium carbonate wash.

Thanks Jorkest!

WS, GREAT JOB LAYING THAT ALL OUT! That helps others besides me, I'm sure.

I will used your RT bestine recrystallization as the final step in my first extractions. THEN I will invest in a column chromatography setup in order to VERIFY (what's probably obvious, that) the crystals are pure DMT-freebase. For the nebulizer stuff I want to have maximum confidence that I'm working with truly pure DMT; it'll be great if I can verify that your method indeed produces that--so everybody won't have to get their own chromatography setup in order to have pure DMT-freebase.

Thanks again for taking the time to type that up in complete and ordered detail!

WS,

Question regarding your step 3: how are you doing the washing/separating process? Are you using a tiny sep funnel? eyedropper? careful pour-off? If a pour off, what kind of container are you using? Seems a small Erlenmeyer flask would work best for that.

No problem!!





Just for the record, I didn't invent this!!
I've read about it in a number of older posts!!

BTW, I've gotten the same results using Vovin's tek without doing a recrystallization with Bestine, but it's a much more involved, time consuming process.
Although the room-temp recrystallization isn't necessary except for growing larger crystals.

Glad I could help!!
We gotta get some hyper-flights under your belt my friend!!

WS

I used a couple of 50ml beakers for that part, sometimes pouring (when I could), other times using an eye dropper or a 5ml pipette if I needed to be a bit more exact.

I usually use a sep funnel for the bigger separations during the extraction & for the Sodium Carb wash I did in that 3rd step too.
The all-liquid separations...

Although the initial extraction in the D-limo/FASW tek is a STB tek, so I used a 1000ml Erlenmeyer Flask instead of my sep funnel.
Both because the much smaller solvent layer is on the top in this case & also because my sep funnel is only 500ml.
(Which has always been big enough in most cases, BTW) (although a bit too big for the SC wash I did in step 3)
Plus there are solids in there with a STB tek. I don't think a sep funnel would work so well with bark sludge stuck in the drain.

Cheers!

WS

SwimFriend, just so your up to speed, "Jungle Spice" is DMT extracted from Mimosa bark with Xylene, or D-Limonene. (Xylene is a horrible solvent!! Avoid it if you can!!)
Those two solvents pull out some extra active alkaloids that are not soluble in Naptha.

The resulting DMT is much softer, more waxy & does not fully crystalize.
But the extra stuff (what ever it is), is active on it's own too, so if left in the extraction, it adds something different to the experience that is quite nice.
I suggest trying it as well at some point!! I prefer pure crystals myself, but a lot of other people highly prefer the full alkaloid mixture.

I made a nice Changa blend using some of the "J-Spice" from this tek, Caapi leaf, Mullein, a small amounts of peppermint & MJ.
It is very different in that I feel more like I am witnessing the experience from inside a bubble or something, as apposed to being fully 100% immersed & one with it, like I do with pure DMT. The herbs may have something to do with that of course.
I feel like the pure, clear/white crystals are more of an organic technology or something so much more enveloping to me, as a whole.

Also, it seems to wait a little longer before coming on strong. A friend of mine verified that a few times now too.
I'll take like 3-4 hits of the "JS-Changa" from this small bong & I don't feel it getting stronger & stronger exponentialy, it waits until I lay back & close my eyes.
Then it hits all at once!! Like a train to space!!!

Anyway, it's definitely worth a try now that D-Limo can be used instead of Xylene!
I love that I can choose from two different, subtle variations on the DMTheme!! ...

WS

I have picked up bits and pieces of "jungle spice lore" here and there reading these threads. Too bad I can offer NOTHING in terms of personal experience.

One thing I'm recalling is that one of the serious chemists (was it benzyme....or bufoman, sorry if I'm assigning credit incorrectly) was INSISTING somewhere that column chromotography, etc., demonstrated very clearly that there IS no such thing as jungle spice (no such alkaloid, anyway). Obviously, there's coloration, etc., but this person was convinced there's no extra alkaloid involved.

I think the theory would be (or maybe I'm making it up as I go along), that "jungle spice" just includes some "binder-like" molecule that comes along with the DMT, which acts subtly on it's rate of absorption somehow, perhaps...