Nothing Stops The Void
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Was this tested before ? Had he more quickly realized just who they were,he would have shown them more respect.Had he tried harder to fathom their brilliant minds,he would have taken more of their teachings to heart.Had he more clearly understood the purpose of their being,
he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...
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From the literature and writings encountered, the semantic system recalls reading that ibogaine contains it's own MAOI within the molecule, which allows the bark extract to be ingested orally by itself. Omni omni. Horus Eye milky way galaxy glissading, swaying hag's hair neath arch de morir, a mirror reflecting everything, holding nothing near, Here.
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Nothing Stops The Void
Posts: 739 Joined: 19-Jun-2008 Last visit: 26-Nov-2013 Location: Blinded by the Lye
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Thanatananda23 wrote:From the literature and writings encountered, the semantic system recalls reading that ibogaine contains it's own MAOI within the molecule, which allows the bark extract to be ingested orally by itself.
Omni omni. Will Orally taken DMT be active during an Iboga Experience ? Had he more quickly realized just who they were,he would have shown them more respect.Had he tried harder to fathom their brilliant minds,he would have taken more of their teachings to heart.Had he more clearly understood the purpose of their being,
he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...
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P.S. Where does one obtain the Magi Eye Iboga now ? Heard you could only get it from an alternate source which contains the precurser to ibogaine? Feel to illuminate. Luminous balls o lovliness. Horus Eye milky way galaxy glissading, swaying hag's hair neath arch de morir, a mirror reflecting everything, holding nothing near, Here.
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Nothing Stops The Void
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You can obtain Tabernanthe Iboga Root/Bark here (: There have to be other Sources as Well . Had he more quickly realized just who they were,he would have shown them more respect.Had he tried harder to fathom their brilliant minds,he would have taken more of their teachings to heart.Had he more clearly understood the purpose of their being,
he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...
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I've been curious about Iboga ever since recently reading Pinchbeck's 2012. Really curious about it. Should consult the Erowid reports on it.. Nothing said on this account is true. It's all fictional for artistic writing purposes.
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"No, seriously"
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Ayawasqero wrote:Observant wrote:Thanatananda23 wrote:From the literature and writings encountered, the semantic system recalls reading that ibogaine contains it's own MAOI within the molecule, which allows the bark extract to be ingested orally by itself.
Omni omni. Will Orally taken DMT be active during an Iboga Experience ? It´ll be. Are you sure? Can you provide a link that supports your claim?
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I don't think one would want to CONSIDER taking any other psychoactive material along with a serious dose of ibogaine. Ibogaine is VERY SERIOUS STUFF that should not be trifled with.
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Nothing Stops The Void
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Yes SWIMfriend , Ibogaine sure is serious stuff . There have been some reported deaths in Iboga Ceremonies( with unknown amounts of ibogaine and unknown admixtures) ... one has to be very careful about the dosage - I know someone who used Ibogaine to quit his heroine addiction (several times). One also has to notice that there Seems to be an Ibogaine rich Ayahuasca Admixture which is used by native Shamans : lobosanango (Tabernaemontana spp.) Quote:
The plant spirits almost always appear in human form. There are exceptions: the spirit of the uña de gato vine (Uncaria guianensis), which has small hook- or claw-like appendages along its length, has appeared to doña María as a tigrito, a small jaguar, the spirit of lobosanango (Tabernaemontana spp.) as a wolf. Doña María says that the plant spirits often appear to her first as plants, and then transform into humans.
http://singingtotheplants.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-plant-spirits-appear.html I only ask for informational purpose ... But I think there definetely are a few people out there who tried Ayahuasca with Ibogaine before , or smoked dmt on Ibogaine . Had he more quickly realized just who they were,he would have shown them more respect.Had he tried harder to fathom their brilliant minds,he would have taken more of their teachings to heart.Had he more clearly understood the purpose of their being,
he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...
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Nothing Stops The Void
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Scientific Article on the Iboga related deaths : http://ibogaine.mindvox....ml?Articles/GS-Bwiti.htmHad he more quickly realized just who they were,he would have shown them more respect.Had he tried harder to fathom their brilliant minds,he would have taken more of their teachings to heart.Had he more clearly understood the purpose of their being,
he would have more vigorously tried to assist them.They were truly honorable; he was sadly prejudiced.
They were exceedingly well informed; he was grossly ignorant.They were totally indefatigable; he so often, and so quickly,gave up. Still, for many years there was a strong inter-species alliance between the Eleven-Eleven of the Half-way Realm, their Seraphic Associates,and their flesh-and-blood friend, a common mortal. Much was accomplished, many profited, and, there’s only one regret...They could have achieved so much more...
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Curiosity maybe?
Why do people try different herbs since the dawn of time and why do they mix them all the time? It seems to be a common theme. Nowadays the earth is a village so mixing african and amazonian plants even though they are "culturally" different sounds fine. Don't you think that the shamans would try as many plant combinations as possible if they had access to psychoactives from other continents?
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Ayawasqero wrote:Yes, but are You sure this would include shamanic use? What would be the possible benefits of an cross continental multiccultural syncretism in an atmosphere of a mere tripping? This is where science ought to come in. Yes. But let's ask first: Why wouldn't mixing cross-continental plants be shamanic use? Or how would you define shamanic use? I have gotten shamanic visions and intense shamanic ascendency by combining two plants from different continents.... the Mimosa Hostilis from the Americas and the Syrian Rue from the Middle Earth (known as Medi-terranean in latin)
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Observant wrote:Thanatananda23 wrote:From the literature and writings encountered, the semantic system recalls reading that ibogaine contains it's own MAOI within the molecule, which allows the bark extract to be ingested orally by itself.
Omni omni. Will Orally taken DMT be active during an Iboga Experience ? After having tried iboga I really wouldn't want to use it in this way. If the mechanism of this substance has any inhibiting effect it will last for a very long time. My only iboga experience had strong body effects for 24 hours and very apparent mental effects for 3 days. I'd given myself 48 hours for the experience but after the third day called in sick for work. I couldn't be bothered thinking up some excuse so I just described exactly how I felt to my boss on the phone. His reply was "have you been in the sun much? It sounds like you have heat stroke".
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